Joe Rogan Experience Gad Saad

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Intro
0:011秒钟Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day Jo see you again you're gorgeous you are too You Beautiful Bastard come on can I read you something oh okay you
0:1919秒钟want to read me something this is from my son just before I came on the show hi Daddy I was wondering if the show will
0:2727秒钟be live anywhere and tell Joe that I say hello and I love his show oh you just made his life how old is he well last
0:3636秒钟week was his bar mitzvah oh so he's 13 13 and it was that's about the age you shouldn't be listening to my show
0:4343秒钟yet you used to disturb me uh when I would meet my youngest daughter's friends when they were uh before high
0:5151秒钟school yeah and they would say they love my podcast I was like geez this is really not for you like some of these subjects not for you but the kids today
1:001分钟they're not 12-year-olds when I was a 12-year-old yeah these kids have a far more advanced understanding of the world
1:091分钟9秒钟for good or for bad yeah probably I mean I don't know if it's good or bad because I mean I think our childhood we were
1:171分钟17秒钟more exposed to things than our parents were I don't necessarily think that's bad so why would I think it's bad for kids today I think the explosion though
1:261分钟26秒钟is you could go on and see porn that you and I don't even know they exist yeah it is an issue yeah that that most
1:321分钟32秒钟certainly is a problem but I don't know um if it's worse or better yeah you know what I'm saying like I would rather have
1:411分钟41秒钟the loss of Innocence that I had as a 14-year-old than the loss of Innocence my parents had I think they just lived
1:491分钟49秒钟in a more ignorant time and with knowledge you're also going to get all the bad stuff like I see a lot of
1:561分钟56秒钟assassination videos okay you know it's funny you say a the Age of Innocence because I've always said that the two
第 2 章：The Age of Innocence
2:052分钟5秒钟things that protect me in life were my Belgian Shepherds whom I love and I I saw by the way that you were talking recently about Belgian malinoa yeah so
2:132分钟13秒钟my we've my kids have grown up with by by the way the Belgian malinoa is one of four types of Belgian Shepherds the only difference across the four types is that
2:212分钟21秒钟the Belgian malinoa has short hair whereas the ones that we had have long hair they even look more wolfish more intimidating scary dogs and so anyways
2:292分钟29秒钟so always said that the two things that protect me when I sort of enter the the sanctity of my home was the love of my
2:372分钟37秒钟family my Belgian Shepherds and the innocence of my children because you know the world out there is ugly and
2:432分钟43秒钟then you go back home true and so once that becomes polluted because they just know more I feel like I'm losing part of
2:532分钟53秒钟them that's interesting um I don't think you should think that way I think they're human beings and should want
3:003分钟them to know things it's just that we enjoy the position of being the person that has all the deep dark knowledge of
3:083分钟8秒钟the world and dealing with this innocent child that wants to watch Dora The Explorer you know Dora you like Peppa
3:163分钟16秒钟Pig Yeah Peppa Pig all those kind of shows and there's you know there's something beautiful in watching a little
3:233分钟23秒钟person learned stuff about the world and and shocking when they find out about like murders and danger and scary things
3:323分钟32秒钟and you know and then their their realm of knowledge expands to you know what amazes me is seeing my children get a
第 3 章：Political Awakening
3:393分钟39秒钟political Awakening so my son who's really precocious he's 13 my daughter is 16 she wasn't as into it but during the
3:483分钟48秒钟last us elections maybe because of the Tik Tok stuff and so on she became she sort of woke up to it and she would come
3:553分钟55秒钟to me and say you know wh why do we like Trump why don't we like and so m i saw an Awakening in her that my son already
4:034分钟3秒钟had I mean he literally will sit with me watch I mean Tucker is no longer on but he would watch Tucker with me and have conversations with me when he was 11 12
4:124分钟12秒钟my daughter came a bit later into the game but it's so rewarding to see them wake up to these things and have meaningful conversations with me on
4:204分钟20秒钟these topics it was beautiful God I didn't know anything about politics blissfully blissfully unaware when I was 13 is that right right but I did worry
4:284分钟28秒钟about um Russia when I was in high school everybody was terrified before the fall of Soviet Union we were terrified that we were going to go to
4:354分钟35秒钟war with Russia it was like a thing that was hovering over our head every day yeah that was kind of all I knew about politics like Russia bad United States
4:444分钟44秒钟good Russia bad wants to kill United States like that's what we were basically told all the movies like Red Dawn you know Russia invades America can
第 4 章：Game Theory
4:524分钟52秒钟I incorporate some professorial elements to what you just said do so one of my intellectual Heroes is John
5:005分钟vanman who was a Hungarian Jewish polymath he was a mathematician he was a game theorist and one of the things that
5:075分钟7秒钟he did he was one of the pioneers of using Game Theory do you do you know what game theory is yes in economics yeah okay yes do you want me to explain
5:155分钟15秒钟it far please so a classic example of a of of a game theory context would be the prisoners dilemma right you you capture
5:245分钟24秒钟two prisoners you take them apart as the cops do each of them can either squeal confess or not and depending on whether
5:325分钟32秒钟so there are four possibilities both can confess one confess the other one so it's a 2 by two Matrix and there are different payoffs in each of these
5:405分钟40秒钟matrices and then the question is what is the optimal Behavior so that's called Game Theory because you you use game
5:475分钟47秒钟theoretic you know framework to model what should be some optimal Behavior well in the context of the Cold War
5:545分钟54秒钟that's when game theory was first being applied the the Russians can or the Soviets can can nuke us or or not we can nuke them or not and so there were all
6:036分钟3秒钟these models that were developed so for example mutually assured destruction is a outshoot of understanding Game Theory
6:116分钟11秒钟and so for the ones who are watching the show John Van Newman is the definition of how I think an intellectual should be
6:216分钟21秒钟very broad thinker he can both discuss mathematics or economics or Game Theory uh he died I think too young but he got
6:296分钟29秒钟his PhD at the age of 23 check him out John vman wow 23 23 years old from
6:366分钟36秒钟Hungary incredible W people like that just make you feel like such a dummy I mean I was impressed with myself because
6:436分钟43秒钟I got my PhD at my in my late 20s that's still pretty good well he beat me by many many years so I'm a little ant
6:516分钟51秒钟compared to him it's bizarre when you see like young teenagers that are in college already because they've gone through their entire High School course
6:586分钟58秒钟by the time they're 14 15 years old yeah now 16 they're in college yeah so strange of course as you know the danger
第 5 章：Social Development
7:057分钟5秒钟of that is that you're not at the right social developmental phase so yes you can solve calculus really easily but you
7:137分钟13秒钟can't speak with people who are four years older than you so you end up being isn't that crazy yeah so it's it's so I'm not I'm not sure if I I support this
7:207分钟20秒钟kind of FASTT tracking because there's there's an element of just being with the right people at the right age that is true but also when you have an
7:287分钟28秒钟extraordinary mind you you want to give that extraordinary mind fuel you you have someone who caught lightning in a bottle yeah you know and you you want to
7:357分钟35秒钟help that yeah I mean maybe there's a way to do it where the parents come with the kid to school or something like that but isn't it strange though that you and
7:437分钟43秒钟I at our age the idea of talking to someone four years older than us is like so what like what's the big deal isn't it weird like the accelerated learning
7:517分钟51秒钟that you have as a child is so rapid and so profound that a four-year age Gap is nuts well speaking of accelerated
第 6 章：Parental Regret
7:587分钟58秒钟learning uh my biggest regret I may have discussed this with you before or not but uh my parental regret is that we never taught
8:068分钟6秒钟our children all of the languages that we speak at home so so I speak my mother tongue is Arabic and I also learned
8:148分钟14秒钟French because from Lebanon and then moving to Montreal then I learned English and I also speak Hebrew and then
8:228分钟22秒钟my wife because she's Lebanese Armenian she speaks Armenian so between between the two of us we speak five languages
8:308分钟30秒钟but here's the here's the the rub if I speak to them in Arabic or Hebrew my wife won't understand if she speaks to
8:388分钟38秒钟them in Armenian I won't understand so we just settled on French and English so rather than them now being these super
8:458分钟45秒钟exotic you know five language speaking kids they only speak the very vanilla French and English yeah but it's still
8:518分钟51秒钟two well % of to Americans I agree they don't even Master one language who barely know English separate versions of
9:009分钟English you know actually I was slangs and dialects I was uh I I posted on on X that I well I was coming to Texas I'm
9:089分钟8秒钟also soon going to South Carolina to Georgia to Florida to Mississippi and so I said if I'm going to fit in in the
9:169分钟16秒钟South since I'm doing this big what are some absolute must Expressions that I must have so the ones I came up with and
9:239分钟23秒钟you'll add to that I'm fixing to leave bless your heart bless your heart y'all y'all all y'all all y'all that's that's
9:329分钟32秒钟all I got yeah don't use any of those no no why no because too cliche they're going to know you're faking it they're going to know I'm faking it
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10:5210分钟52秒钟slj Rogan seriously get on this but the thing is like saying it like that you can't with if you don't have a southern
10:5910分钟59秒钟accent and you're throwing y'alls around people are like get out of here with that it's just a weird one and not that
11:0711分钟7秒钟the accent here is so dense like the the Texas accent is probably much stronger in the rural areas yeah or in small
11:1511分钟15秒钟cities and stuff like that Austin is pretty mixed with a bunch of people from all over the place so I think the just the even the general Texas accent here
11:2411分钟24秒钟is fairly muted do you agree with that Jamie does that make sense I mean there's definitely y'alls are thrown around but that's about it right but
11:3211分钟32秒钟it's not a it's not a Texas accent like you here in other parts of the state there's other parts of the state you talk to people like that's a
11:3911分钟39秒钟[ __ ] Texas accent you know what I'm saying like there's a very specific way that they talk that's pretty cool
11:4711分钟47秒钟but it's um it's very distinct you know like makes you know where you're at like New Yorkers like if you're in New York and you go to an an Italian deli and
11:5411分钟54秒钟you're talking to this [ __ ] guy and he's making you a sandwich you know like my friend Giovani uh like it's this like it's fun it's like they're talking the
12:0212分钟2秒钟way they talk it's like it's it's a very specific way of talking it's cool I was going to say that you're going to get me in trouble because I think I mentioned to you last time that the biggest
第 7 章：Canadian Accent
12:1112分钟11秒钟trouble I ever faced was two shows ago when I was here and I made a joke about the French Canadian accent yes you did
12:1812分钟18秒钟they get very upet at you I am hereby stating that in nature the most beautiful auditory orgasm is to listen to the French Canadian but now they
12:2712分钟27秒钟think you're lying because now you're learn you're a flip fler flip flopper is a weird one to me
12:3512分钟35秒钟cuz it's like wait a minute what do you do when you encounter new information that's right don't you change your mind like this idea that someone who's
12:4212分钟42秒钟running for office especially right it's always like presidential candidates and Senate cand that you should never you should always be consistent yeah which is so crazy like shouldn't you learn
12:5112分钟51秒钟from new information so in in in behavioral decision- making and psychology of decision- making there's a whole field that studies what are the
第 8 章：Cognitive Traps
12:5912分钟59秒钟types of cognitive traps that people succumb to precisely to not alter their original position and Leon festinger I
13:0713分钟7秒钟don't know if you know he's the he's the Pioneer who developed the theory of cognitive dissonance uh and so he has an
13:1313分钟13秒钟amazing quote which I use in one of my earlier books uh in the parasitic mind where he basically says the types of
13:2213分钟22秒钟mental machinations that the average human being will engage in to make sure that there's cogn nitive consistency in
13:3013分钟30秒钟his mind because incoming information that contradicts my anchored position makes me feel icky so what are the kinds
13:3713分钟37秒钟of mental gymnastics I'm going to go through to make sure that everything stays consistent in my mind which as you might imagine is a is a big obstacle for
13:4513分钟45秒钟me because I'm in the business of administering mind vaccines to people right getting them to think properly but
13:5313分钟53秒钟if the reality is that the architecture of the human mind is not built to change their positions then I'm up shits Creek
14:0014分钟well if you pay attention to X you will see you are up shits Creek especially liberal people on X
14:0914分钟9秒钟like Super Hyper liberal people that are unwilling to look at any positive aspects of any sort of Republican ideas or policies or yeah it's like that's
14:1814分钟18秒钟what they're doing they're doing that 100% albeit there are a few people that have come around let's say to Trump no don't you think oh yeah yeah a lot of
14:2714分钟27秒钟people have but it's like they had see you know four years of an awful Administration to go oh okay wait a
14:3514分钟35秒钟minute I think I think these people are bullshitting me I think these people are fully incompetent I don't think that guy's really the president I think there's like a bunch of financial
14:4414分钟44秒钟institutions and deep state operatives that are involved in this whole thing like and that's when did you see that um
14:5014分钟50秒钟interview with Mike Johnson when uh he was talking about uh conversations that he had with Biden about liquid natural gas I don't think so Biden had signed an
14:5914分钟59秒钟executive order and it limited liquid natural oh and then he said I didn't do that he said didn't do right right and so he couldn't get a meeting with Biden
15:0715分钟7秒钟they wouldn't let him have a meeting it took a year before he got a meeting and there was a bunch of people in the room in that meeting and he wanted to be alone with Biden but Biden kicked
15:1515分钟15秒钟everybody out so they had to listen so when Biden kicked everybody out then he was talking to him and then he found out that Biden didn't even read these
15:2315分钟23秒钟executive orders he was gone man we knew he was gone I said he was gone in 2020 yeah the presidency ages you faster than
15:3115分钟31秒钟radiation whatever the [ __ ] happens when you're in that when you have all that information and all that pressure and like the whole world's watching you and then there's [ __ ] chaos everywhere
15:3915分钟39秒钟and a probably a bunch of terrifying [ __ ] that most people don't have information on but you do and all a sudden you have this crazy position like
15:4815分钟48秒钟you age like crazy so he was already gone four years ago so four years of getting cooked by being the president
15:5615分钟56秒钟like that poor guy so I tell you background story uh because we're talking about Trump and of course he came on your show I was speaking to one
第 9 章：Trump
16:0416分钟4秒钟of his senior advisers prior to him agreeing to come on your show and I was saying you know hey I would love to have
16:1116分钟11秒钟President Trump for a chat and so on he goes oh that's that's fantastic what would you like to talk about what what angle would you like to do uh to pursue
16:1916分钟19秒钟and I said well you know I think that a lot of people have this wrong impression of President Trump if if he was given a long format uh setting where we can just
16:2816分钟28秒钟chat people would see that he's funny and he's not this ogre and of course he came on your show there's no point coming on my show Once he's been on your
16:3516分钟35秒钟show and I think you did exactly that with him so that a lot of people several people that I know who hated Trump after they sort of watched him on your show
16:4316分钟43秒钟they're like he's kind of cool and so I that was exactly what I was hoping to do had I had the privilege of having him
16:5016分钟50秒钟chat with me and of course you pulled it off yeah that's the only way to talk to people and I wanted to do that with Harris too I wanted to be able to talk
16:5816分钟58秒钟to as a human just have a a conversation with I know there's a human in there I know this the whole system's [ __ ] but I I've talked about this before but
17:0717分钟7秒钟there's this one interview that she does where she talks about meeting her mother and father-in-law for the first time and it's so funny when she talks about her
17:1517分钟15秒钟mother-in-law grabbing her face and goes oh look at you you she's laughing but she's laughing genuine it's not that weird performative laugh that she does
17:2317分钟23秒钟sometimes it's really funny I like there's a human in there like that would be fun to just talk to a person do you I mean obviously you've spoken to
第 10 章：Conversation Flow
17:3217分钟32秒钟thousands of people for three-hour chunks do you think had you had the opportunity you would have been able to
17:3817分钟38秒钟pull out 3 hours of worthwhile conversation with her I don't know you you don't know until you do it you know
17:4617分钟46秒钟it's you don't know also based on people's conversations with other people because people are different to some people they go into conversations like
17:5417分钟54秒钟it's an interview right and so they don't they don't they can't establish a flow right conversation like where you and I
18:0118分钟1秒钟are having is a dance exactly we're both moving we're moving we have to like I actually call it a Tango like literally it is a Tango it's a Tango it's it's
18:0918分钟9秒钟it's a dance and you have to know that and some people literally are having these things and don't know it's a Tango
18:1618分钟16秒钟yeah they think that it's an opportunity for them to expose people's flaws or catch people in
18:2418分钟24秒钟viral moments or an opportunity to flex your intellect it's there's a bunch of thing so it [ __ ] with the flow because
18:3318分钟33秒钟as a person listening I want I want to feel a genuine conversation that's what I want yeah right and you can get that
18:4118分钟41秒钟out of almost anybody if they're willing to do it but that you have to be skillful in how you negotiate it and how
18:4918分钟49秒钟you do it you have to think about it like it's like a dance so I'm going to maybe be a bit more un less charitable
第 11 章：Vulnerability
18:5618分钟56秒钟than you I I don't think she's cap AP of doing it because it takes a couple of things to be able to do what you just
19:0319分钟3秒钟said number one it takes vulnerability in that you're laying yourself out there right now I'm speaking straight without any script and I might say something
19:1119分钟11秒钟stupid that's going to be caught by millions of people but I'm willing to take that chance for the joy of sitting and chatting with you but if you're
19:1919分钟19秒钟tight and you can't let yourself go if you don't have the self assuredness to be able to be vulnerable then you can't that's why she could only speak in those
19:2719分钟27秒钟little chunks perhaps but it's also perhaps who is she talking to do they have the um the ability to do they have
19:3619分钟36秒钟the personality do they have whatever it is that allows people to be comfortable and have a conversation because all these conversations is just like the way
19:4419分钟44秒钟I talk about like these rambling speeches that she does which she kind of rambles on it's because she's I know what it's like she's trying to Dismount she doesn't know how to Dismount so it's
19:5319分钟53秒钟pressure right but how is she verbally when there's no pressure I she's a lot better everybody is so that's the goal
20:0220分钟2秒钟the goal is to talk to her like a human like there was a few things they didn't want to talk about I said I don't care we could talk about [ __ ] groceries I
20:0920分钟9秒钟don't give a [ __ ] we talk about flowers I don't or don't give a [ __ ] I just want to talk like let's talk you don't want to talk anybody who doesn't want to talk
20:1620分钟16秒钟about something I don't need to talk to them about that right you know if you don't if you've had a UFO experience you don't want to talk about it like okay
20:2320分钟23秒钟let's talk about ghosts what what do you think about big I'll find out what you're about we did you and I talked about Bigfoot last time when you
20:3120分钟31秒钟explained to me how you got off the Bigfoot train yeah I want to believe that's the problem the problem with Bigfoot is the same problem that I have
20:3920分钟39秒钟with no I don't believe but it's the same problem that I have with UFOs the problem is I am very biased look there's
20:4520分钟45秒钟a [ __ ] UFO right behind me very very biased I there's a UFO on the desk look that's the the sport model from um Bob
20:5320分钟53秒钟Lazar what he found in the area S4 Area 51 okay I I am um I'm a romantic in that
21:0221分钟2秒钟way I want to believe in stupid [ __ ] right right I do I so I have to be careful I have to be careful in what do
21:1021分钟10秒钟I actually believe versus what do I want to believe like what is the data show me and the data shows me especially what I
21:1721分钟17秒钟know now from being a hunter for 12 years and spending a lot of time in the woods and knowing how many people are
21:2421分钟24秒钟out there and how many people have phones and cameras and how many trail cameras there are and how many we we
21:3121分钟31秒钟have like real accurate there's only two Jaguars that we know of that are in North America and they know exactly where they are like you telling me just
21:4021分钟40秒钟telling me this [ __ ] giant ape has wandered around Seattle without anybody seeing them right it's just not likely
21:4921分钟49秒钟also there's a bunch of Al reasonable explanations first of all have you ever been the Pacific Northwest you've been up I've been to Seattle uh the woods up
21:5821分钟58秒钟there are fascinating because it's essentially a rainforest so there's so much rain that the forest is dense like
22:0522分钟5秒钟these fingers right like it's like a box of Q-tips that's what I always describe it as like there's no spaces it's just trees everywhere there it's just there's
22:1422分钟14秒钟no like big Open Spaces where you you know if like you go to Montana you go to the woods you know there's mountains and there's trees but there's like space in
22:2222分钟22秒钟between the trees it's expansive there's no [ __ ] space up there it's a rainforest it's like this you know see [ __ ] and bears are known commonly to
22:3122分钟31秒钟walk on two legs they do it all the time I've seen Bears personally with my own eyes I've seen bears in the woods walk on two legs right they do it all the
22:3922分钟39秒钟time so if you're looking in between all these trees and something 100 yards away is going in
22:4822分钟48秒钟between trees and standing up tall you just saw Bigfoot right meanwhile you saw a black bear yeah exactly normal everyday average black bear standing on
22:5722分钟57秒钟its back legs they do it all time and they could easily be 7t tall so you know earlier we were talking about how would you change your opinion once you have a
第 12 章：How would you change your opinion
23:0523分钟5秒钟position that's anchored yeah so and now you're saying you know I'd love to believe in this stuff but then incoming information comes in and then I kind of have to accept the fact that I can't
23:1423分钟14秒钟believe this stuff well that in a sense was the exact topic of my doctoral dissertation 30 I actually celebrated 30
23:2223分钟22秒钟years in uh 2024 what examples did you use so I brought in uh subjects into the
23:2923分钟29秒钟lab so let me tell you what the okay topic was and then I'll tell you how I we ran how I ran it so the idea was to study what are called stopping
23:3723分钟37秒钟strategies which means when is it that a person has acquired enough information
23:4423分钟44秒钟to stop and make a choice now why is that important because classical economic theory argues that if you're
23:5223分钟52秒钟going to maximize your utility when you're making a decision you should look at all of the available information you
24:0024分钟can't choose the card that maximizes your utility if you leave some un information unturned so that's called a
24:0724分钟7秒钟normative theory meaning that's how you ought to behave normatively if you want to be a perfect decision maker rational decisionmaker but objectively speaking
24:1624分钟16秒钟that's not what we do right like you and I every decision that we make every day we don't sample all of the relevant and available information before we make a
24:2424分钟24秒钟choice we sample until we have sufficiently sufficient ly differentiated between the choices that you say there's no point in sampling
24:3324分钟33秒钟more information I now have enough information to vote for Trump I have enough information to marry this girl to choose this employee so that's called a
24:4224分钟42秒钟stopping strategy so I was studying the cognitive strategies that people use when they're making the stopping decision and so what I did so to answer
24:4924分钟49秒钟your question of how I went about doing it I brought in people into the lab and I made them make sequential binary
24:5724分钟57秒钟choices binary choices means it's a choice between two Alternatives sequential means that they acquire one piece of information at a time on these
25:0625分钟6秒钟two Alternatives this was done on a computer and it's called a process tracing algorithm meaning that it keeps track of every single behavior that the
25:1425分钟14秒钟decision maker is making it does that in the background and so what I was looking at they could acquire up to 25 attributes let's say choosing between
25:2225分钟22秒钟apartments and I was tracking the cognitive processes that they were using and deciding when to start stop and
25:2925分钟29秒钟choose Apartment A or choose Apartment B and then later I applied that to other types of decisions for example mate
25:3525分钟35秒钟choice right so you could apply for anything you could apply choosing between uh Fitness instructors choosing between political candidates to to vote
25:4425分钟44秒钟for for anything right the reason why it's binary it's because it only operates once you're down to two final Alternatives you might have used another
25:5225分钟52秒钟process to go from 10 Alternatives like let's say the primaries in the US system we first go through Republican primary then we choose one
26:0026分钟final one and then we go through Democratic uh primary we choose one and then the final two go head-to-head
26:0726分钟7秒钟that's when my model comes in and so my model really explains how we make decisions across a bewildering number of
26:1426分钟14秒钟cases specifically how we stop and say I'm marrying her I'm hiring him I'm voting for him so it was a big a big
26:2226分钟22秒钟deal so a a Tipping Point of information like when you have enough information to make uh rational quality decision exactly so
26:3126分钟31秒钟what you do actually is you set I mean if if I could show it to you on a curve it would really be cool it's you set you set a what's called a differentiation a
26:4026分钟40秒钟differentiation threshold which basically says that I have now sufficiently teased apart the Mazda and
26:4726分钟47秒钟the Toyota that I've hit that threshold that I'm sufficiently convinced that that decision would never be overturned
26:5526分钟55秒钟even if I sampled all of the remaining information that's a good example a good example because when people are looking at cars and they're trying to figure it
27:0227分钟2秒钟out like you and you start going over especially today start going over all the details and different things they do and then you get online like what's more
27:1027分钟10秒钟reliable you know yeah and some some people use What's called the core attributes Uris which basically is
27:1827分钟18秒钟there's only there might be 60 attributes that I might look at in a car but I really care only about four attributes I will sample those four
27:2627分钟26秒钟whichever car is ahead after those for I'll buy that car and so I studied all of those decision rule strategies what about emotions though doesn't that play
27:3427分钟34秒钟in there I great question so later once I had gotten my PhD I started incorporating various types of emotional
第 13 章：What happens to stopping thresholds
27:4327分钟43秒钟states to see where people shift those stopping thresholds so one thing I did it never got published and we can talk
27:5027分钟50秒钟about that so I look I wanted to look at what happens to those stopping thresholds for this for do you know what
27:5827分钟58秒钟dysphoric mean like gender dysphoria no not gender dysphoric emotion so dysphoria is like a mild state of a
28:0628分钟6秒钟clinical depression it's not I'm going to kill myself but my wife left me my dog died life sucks so that's called
28:1428分钟14秒钟disphoria it's the opposite of euphoria so there is a psychometric scale that you could administer to people to measure their dysphoria scores and so I
28:2228分钟22秒钟wanted to see whether non dysphorics people who don't suffer from dysphoria would make their stopping decisions in a
28:3028分钟30秒钟different way than dysphoric and I didn't have any ariary hypothesis why because the literature
28:3728分钟37秒钟was very confused some theories said that this Forex by virtue of them being helpess and apathetic life sucks will
28:4628分钟46秒钟actually acquire less information before they commit to a choice then there was another school of thought that thought
28:5328分钟53秒钟no this foric are so helpless that one of the ways that they can gain control over their lives is to look at more information so because I couldn't come
29:0229分钟2秒钟up with any ariary hypothesis and being an honest scientist I said I'm not going to posit any hypothesis I'm just going to run it and see what I get so I think
29:1129分钟11秒钟I had 18 different measures that were comparing the D maybe maybe 17 measures that were comparing the dysphoric to the
29:1829分钟18秒钟non-dysphoric on of which on 16 out of the 17 I Got No Effects right now that to me was worthy of publishing mean
29:2829分钟28秒钟meaning that in this particular task dysphoria doesn't seem to moderate the behavior I send it to the stop Journal
29:3529分钟35秒钟actually called cognition and emotion you asking about emotion the editor writes back to me G gorgeous study
29:4329分钟43秒钟beautiful design beautiful unfortunately given the number of null effects you got I can't publish it now this is literally
29:5229分钟52秒钟called in science the null effects bias or the drawer which means what you only
29:5929分钟59秒钟end up publishing findings that give you an effect and you put into The Disappearance bin all of the findings
30:0830分钟8秒钟that didn't get any effects so when you then run a metaanalysis do you know what a meta analysis when you run a meta analysis it's not an actual accurate
30:1730分钟17秒钟depiction of the totality of findings because all of those null effect studies were never published and so I tried to tell the the psychologist in question
30:2630分钟26秒钟who by the way several years later he was at USC and was hounding me because he's a super wster I couldn't believe
30:3330分钟33秒钟how much he fell in my esteem but anyways that's a separate separate I won't even mention his name although he's worthy of being shamed on The Joe
30:4030分钟40秒钟Rogan show and I wrote to him I said but I really think that you know you're succumbing to the null effects bias because I really it's worthy to publish
30:4930分钟49秒钟this this was I think in 1998 it's information it's information that is worthy of the the certainly the scientific Community should know about
30:5730分钟57秒钟it well I probably one of the first times I've ever discussed it was on the show so hopefully at least it gets that
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第 15 章：The Human Ego
32:2332分钟23秒钟biggest hurdles is the human ego does not want us to ever be wrong right it's
32:3032分钟30秒钟a giant hurdle and human beings for whatever reason I guess it's part of the motivation of acquiring information and
32:3832分钟38秒钟of advancing your ideas we attach ourselves to ideas and one of the things that I
32:4632分钟46秒钟always tell young people like if you want to if you want to do better in life and not get tricked by your own [ __ ]
32:5332分钟53秒钟don't be married to your ideas ideas are just ideas you are not your your ideas ideas are some things that you [ __ ]
33:0133分钟1秒钟around with in your head and you explore and you talk about with friends but you have to always be honest about them and
33:0833分钟8秒钟never be attached to them yeah the problem with ideas is that ideas are just like everything else human beings grab them and they're stingy and they're
33:1633分钟16秒钟like mine and I want my idea to win and you'll lie so your idea wins and it'll Advance your career if your idea wins
33:2433分钟24秒钟and if you can even if you can unfairly dis miss or you you can be you can be
33:3133分钟31秒钟unethical and how you're ignoring certain aspects of data for your opposing ideas like people do that and
33:3833分钟38秒钟succeed because of that because Academia uh rewards them the media rewards them especially you know if they
33:4733分钟47秒钟can publish in a the New York Times or something like that like if they can make a story like you get rewarded for lying yeah so I can tell you at million
第 16 章：Being Wetted
33:5633分钟56秒钟I mean this is my 31st year as a Professor I can read a paper and I can just by looking at how clean their
34:0434分钟4秒钟presentation of the data is tell you that they cheated because the the the
34:1134分钟11秒钟structure of the reality of data is never as clean as how it is presented in
34:1834分钟18秒钟many of these journal and then by the way not not to sort of tap myself on the shoulder but some of the top people that I'm that I know who ended up getting
34:2734分钟27秒钟caught for fabrication of data I was in private circles saying I bet you 80% of this guy's research is [ __ ] and then
34:3634分钟36秒钟it comes out to be the case because I I'll give you I'll give you an example so I did a study and speaking about being wetted to your ideas so I
34:4434分钟44秒钟had a graduate student that worked with me on a really really cool project which we ended up publishing in 2009 gorgeous paper on testosterone and so on really
34:5334分钟53秒钟beautiful paper I noticed that as we were getting ready to run these studies there was always a delay where
35:0235分钟2秒钟he wasn't yet ready to kind of cast the die and so one day we had gone for coffee I said you know what I think I
35:0835分钟8秒钟think that maybe you're afraid that if right now in the rarified world of us having just posited the hypothesis but
35:1735分钟17秒钟not run the study we live in a world where we it hasn't been falsified yet so you're we're you're wetted to the idea
35:2535分钟25秒钟but you I think you're scared that if we run the studies and the data doesn't come out in support then the but guess what it doesn't matter because we're
35:3435分钟34秒钟going to reap some benefit from that well true and he looked at me and he was like actually you're exactly right Professor I'm afraid to find out whether
35:4135分钟41秒钟we're correct or not I said just let's do it it was actually a study on uh so there was two parts of the study and I'm
35:4935分钟49秒钟not sure if I've ever discussed it with you so I wanted to look at what happens to men's testosterone levels when they
35:5835分钟58秒钟engage in Acts of conspicuous consumption and what happens to men's testosterone when they see other men engaging in Acts of conspicuous
36:0736分钟7秒钟consumption and the general story as you might imagine is when I engage in an act of conspicuous consumption my testosterone goes up because I I I had a
36:1636分钟16秒钟social win and when I see you who's a competitor to me getting into your fancy Maserati then my tail goes between my
36:2436分钟24秒钟leg so you feel bad so my testosterone goes down so we designed two gorgeous studies we ran them it was gorgeous it was beautiful by the way I always joke
36:3336分钟33秒钟that for study one we actually had people drive a Porsche that we rented
36:4036分钟40秒钟and a beaten up old uh sedan and after each driving condition we took salivary assays so that we could measure the
36:4736分钟47秒钟testosterone and I always joke try to get from a granting agency research funds so that you could rent a Porsche
36:5636分钟56秒钟now only when you can do you're a good scientist anyways and so we ran the studies and several of the hypotheses that we
37:0337分钟3秒钟posited turned out to be vertical but several were falsified but to the credit
37:1037分钟10秒钟of the editor unlike the other guy he found value in even the the findings that were contrary to what we had
37:1737分钟17秒钟expected because we had an post Haw explanation for why it didn't work out and so listen to everybody who's an
37:2437分钟24秒钟aspiring scientist always be honest don't fudge the data don't go back and pretend that you had hypothesized the
37:3337分钟33秒钟stuff after you see what the data results are oh is that what they do oh tons tons as a matter of fact I human ego human well that's that's I told this
37:4137分钟41秒钟whole story to your point exactly yeah it's awful it's awful because we rely on Experts yeah and a lot of times experts
37:4937分钟49秒钟are just like everybody else they're competing with these other experts and they're trying to get ahead and they're willing to [ __ ] and also there's Financial reward and [ __ ]
37:5837分钟58秒钟there's people that would like them to [ __ ] a little bit it make it a lot easier for us to pass this thing that we're trying to do you do a little bullshitting exactly yeah I I I'll add
38:0738分钟7秒钟something else actually I'm going to I'm giving a talk at one of the universities here in Austin as part of this trip and I'm going to talk about the so I'm old
38:1638分钟16秒钟enough at this point of all I'd like to think that I'm still have many years left but uh that I can sort of look back at you know what are some of the great
38:2338分钟23秒钟things that I've faced as a professor what are some of the things that that I'm disappointed and probably the number one thing that most disappoints me in my
38:3138分钟31秒钟fellow academics and I don't mean that as a hottie thing is how non-intellectual most of them are most
38:3938分钟39秒钟of them are just playing a game I mean obviously they're intelligent they're in the sense that they've gotten a PhD they've gotten a professorship they they
38:4738分钟47秒钟they are staying your lane professors they know their little methodology but you can't sit with them at a party and
38:5438分钟54秒钟talk about things that is not within their areas of specialty they're not these big polymaths they're not Leonardo
39:0139分钟1秒钟da Vinci and so that has disappointed me because sort of my fantasy of becoming an academic was that every Friday for
39:1039分钟10秒钟Shabbat dinner I'd be inviting all of these intellectual colleagues of mine and my children will be growing up hearing the art historian and the
39:1939分钟19秒钟mathematician and the and and and my children and I are immersed in an endless orgy of ideas all day whereas
39:2739分钟27秒钟most most professors are just sort of mundane publish or perish get tenure game the system and so that left me with
39:3539分钟35秒钟a very and that's why I do my thing because I I don't play those games and so that's been disappointing well that competition it creeps into Medical
第 17 章：Why We Have War
39:4339分钟43秒钟Science as well and the really scary thing I was see reading about this case where this doctor was treating people for cancer that didn't have cancer he
39:5239分钟52秒钟was giving chemotherapy to all these people that didn't have cancer and um and when they confronted him one one of
39:5939分钟59秒钟the things that he said is you have to eat what you kill in this business wow so it was essentially he was saying in
40:0640分钟6秒钟order to thrive as a cancer doctor he had to diagnose more people with cancer than actually had cancer and he was in
40:1440分钟14秒钟some way just and if not justifying explaining the thought process that led him to do this which is so crazy to
40:2240分钟22秒钟think unbel but that's the reality of being a person it's like you're your ego and your mind and the justifications
40:3040分钟30秒钟that you can make for doing certain things I mean this is why we have War right this this is what war is the
40:3840分钟38秒钟ultimate expression of that justification of the most horrific things yeah because you believe it's the right thing to do exactly or because it
40:4640分钟46秒钟benefits you or because if you don't something's going to happen you know and well I I always say and you you might
40:5340分钟53秒钟have seen me post it often on X I always say the most d ous force in nature our parasitized minds yeah right it it's I
41:0241分钟2秒钟mean the tsunami is is devastating but it's a one bleep well what's interesting about you and your work is you predicted
41:1041分钟10秒钟essentially the entire covid reaction and and the freak out and the woke mob the the whole the whole
41:1841分钟18秒钟left freak out way before it was going on you caught like the first sounds of the drums in the far distance you're
41:2641分钟26秒钟like guys we got to get the [ __ ] out of here and everybody's like relax I don't hear any drums and you're like dude I heard drums I heard Viking drums that is
41:3441分钟34秒钟literally my autobiography yeah well that's what you did you really did do that you you you were way ahead of it and you were widely criticized by a
41:4341分钟43秒钟bunch of those people who turned out to be these woke [ __ ] they eventually fell into the trans and they all you know put their [ __ ] bios and their
41:5241分钟52秒钟gender bios and their Twitter trans t r a n c yeah the but they fell into the trans of trans t t r ANS well trans was
42:0042分钟just the ultimate expression of this Preposterous idea yeah this inclusion like this idea that the more suppressed
42:0942分钟9秒钟you are or the more maligned you are the more social credit we have to give you and this is in the name of equity so we
42:1742分钟17秒钟bump a biological male who thinks he's a woman ahead of actual biological women to the point where it's like literally
42:2642分钟26秒钟victimizing women and we ignore it we try to pretend it doesn't happen whether it's in schools or it's like in the
42:3342分钟33秒钟workplace and that's that's the ultimate expression of this ability to completely ignore reality because it doesn't align
42:4142分钟41秒钟with your ideology well so I have some good news not phenomenal news but in the same way that there's now this cataclysmic change that's happening
42:5042分钟50秒钟because of trump and so on you know Dei is out and so on I'm definitely seeing a well certainly a gr number of
42:5742分钟57秒钟Institutions that are reaching out to me who are suddenly very interested and keen on speaking with me well that's
43:0543分钟5秒钟good yeah so that's wonderful and and not in a in a gleeful sense of hey I was right but in the sense that well hey you were right first you were right no but
43:1443分钟14秒钟we're we're we're redirecting the ship people are waking up so it's not just about me and uh you know so like this year I'm I'm a visiting professor and
43:2343分钟23秒钟Global Ambassador at Northwood University I took a leave from my home University iiv because I couldn't stand the Hamas crazies and so on and you know
43:3343分钟33秒钟if you go to that school you'll be hard blessed to see one parasitic idea that's great there are you know University of Austin here is trying to do big things
43:4243分钟42秒钟there are several other schools how's that going it's it's coming along uh there are I mean it it it had hit a bit of a couple of obstacles but I think
43:5043分钟50秒钟things are uh moving on track now now is the idea behind the University of Austin I only peripherally know what going on I know they brought in a lot of very
43:5843分钟58秒钟interesting people that are going to be a part of it and Barry Weiss is a big part of it yeah she's on the board of so but but what are they trying to do are they trying to have a real University
44:0644分钟6秒钟like every other university where you get accredited completely real University actually they're now I think they just uh admitted their first class
44:1444分钟14秒钟of 2028 fully fully accredited and the idea is to return to Broad classical
44:2144分钟21秒钟liberal not in Liberal in the political sense but like you you read the ancient Greek stories you you know you read Homer you
44:3044分钟30秒钟read uh you read Socrates and Aristotle like real basic education without any of the parasitic stuff but I don't it's not
44:3944分钟39秒钟just an anti-woke school it's a return to that broad education I mean you know I was reading some of the stuff that the
44:4644分钟46秒钟founding fathers write and not no disrespect to Kamala Harris or Joe Biden when you read stuff that Thomas
44:5444分钟54秒钟Jefferson and George Washington and James Madison wrote those were men of letters MH right right I mean they they
45:0345分钟3秒钟can they can quote Cicero and you know and so on well I think what university of Austin I I haven't gone to visit yet
45:1145分钟11秒钟but from my understanding is they're they're trying to create students who are really well read well you know have critical thinking abilities so it's not
45:2045分钟20秒钟just a correction to the woke stuff but let's let's return to meaningful well-grounded all-encompassing education
45:2845分钟28秒钟and if they pull it off what a great thing yeah education is not supposed to be just indoctrination it's supposed to be giving you a broad perspective on a
45:3845分钟38秒钟bunch of different ways that people look at the world and what we know about the world that's a fact yeah and you're supposed to be able to form your own
45:4645分钟46秒钟conclusions the way you're supposed to be able to do that you're supposed to see people of different ideologies debate and have conversations about things you're not supposed to pull fire
45:5345分钟53秒钟alarms and and shut people off because you don't like what they're saying you're supposed to have someone from your side who can calmly and reasonably
46:0246分钟2秒钟and you know in a in a way that's encouraging to other people to think the way they're thinking yeah like you you have to be
46:0946分钟9秒钟persuasive there has to be something about what they're saying that go wow that guy's making some really good points or wow she just shut all that down now I'm thinking about it
46:1746分钟17秒钟differently like you don't that's like a beautiful part of education is that you might have some like there how many people there like wasn't Ronald Reagan
46:2646分钟26秒钟at one point in time I think Ronald Reagan was like he was he was so left-wing that he was investigated by
46:3346分钟33秒钟the government see if that's true I think I think I've read this that Ronald Reagan at one point in time was like a hardcore
46:4146分钟41秒钟lefty well he certainly was Lefty I don't know how hardcore but yeah I think he was a hardcore Lefty and I think he was I think during the McCarthy era I
46:5046分钟50秒钟think somewhere around then I think he was even investigated yeah okay I think I think that's true not not sure if that
46:5746分钟57秒钟that it was during the McCarthy era but he was a really hardcore leftwing he changed his mind people and how do you change your mind you change your mind by
47:0647分钟6秒钟evidence by interacting with people that have different opinions that you didn't consider before and now you do and you have to be honest about your ideas and
47:1347分钟13秒钟mold them over in your head and figure out why do I think this way now so one one thing about uh sort of this broad education I was mentioning earlier John
第 18 章：Interdisciplinarity
47:2247分钟22秒钟Van Newman who's this kind of polymath he's an expert in so many things he's a generalist you Joe many of the biggest U
47:2947分钟29秒钟scientific Innovations have happened at the intersection of interdisciplinarity because many of the biggest scientific
47:3647分钟36秒钟problems necessitate expertise in many different domains so the mapping of the human genome could not come from only
47:4447分钟44秒钟one discipline it took biostatisticians and biologists and geneticists and bio all kinds of different expertise to put
47:5247分钟52秒钟it all together right and so one of the things that I've been trying I mean certainly in my own research I you know I publish in medicine and in marketing
48:0148分钟1秒钟and in Psychology and in Behavioral Science and evolution uh I I've lived my life as an interd disciplinarian but we
48:0848分钟8秒钟don't train our students to be this way right you are a accounting major you are my stay in your lane stay in your lane
48:1648分钟16秒钟you you stay in your Silo as a matter of fact our universities are architecturally designed so that we never speak to people who are if you in
48:2448分钟24秒钟the psychology department you never talk to someone from the finance department but what if we were to speak to each other to study the psychology of
48:3148分钟31秒钟personal finance and now we've just created a Synergy that we never thought of before right so one of the things that I'm hoping to do with some of the
48:3948分钟39秒钟universities that are now interested in you know making me an offer is to build something that I've long dreamt of which
48:4548分钟45秒钟I call the The consilience Institute consilience have we ever talked about consilience on the show I don't know
48:5248分钟52秒钟okay so even if we have let me repeat it uh so consilience is a term that was sort of reintroduced into the vernacular
49:0149分钟1秒钟by EO Wilson who's a he recently passed away a Harvard anthologist he studied social ants in the late 90s Joe he wrote
49:0949分钟9秒钟a book called consilience colon Unity of knowledge so consilience refers to are you able to create links between
49:1849分钟18秒钟different disciplines can you create an organized tree of knowledge so he was arguing as I believe as well that
49:2649分钟26秒钟evolutionary theory is the meta consilient framework that can link many different disciplines so for example you
49:3449分钟34秒钟could study literature using evolutionary theory and this field is called darwinian literary criticism and
49:4249分钟42秒钟can you guess what that might mean or you want me to just jump jum okay so darwinian literary criticism means when
第 19 章：Darwinian Literary Criticism
49:4949分钟49秒钟you study certain literature narratives that have stood the test of time the reason why they tickle our fancy is
49:5849分钟58秒钟because at their base they have certain Universal themes that map onto key evolutionary right paternity uncertainty
50:0750分钟7秒钟sibling rivalry romantic jealousy so in other words there are six seven eight key evolutionary templates that drive
50:1650分钟16秒钟much of the great literature whether it be Arabic literature whether it be ancient Greek literature whether it be Japanese literature there's always that
50:2550分钟25秒钟same template and that's why they they cater to our sent that's why I could understand what an ancient Greek poet
50:3250分钟32秒钟had wrote 2,500 years ago and I I get what how he's feeling jealousy because you and I are running on the same
50:3950分钟39秒钟softwares that that guy did and so that would be called darwinian literary criticism you could apply evolutionary theory to architecture okay so I'm
50:4850分钟48秒钟trying to give examples that you wouldn't have thought of so Architects usually are trained in how to design
50:5550分钟55秒钟buildings to minimize cost and maximize the speed with which you can build a thing they're not trained to design
51:0351分钟3秒钟buildings that are consistent with our biophilic nature biophilic means love of nature so there are certain architectural designs that actually make
51:1151分钟11秒钟us be more productive here's a simple example just having more windows increases productivity as a matter of fact there's a great study that was
51:1951分钟19秒钟published in maybe nature or science one of those two journals in 1984 I think where the researcher did only the following experimental experimental
51:2851分钟28秒钟manipulation half the people who had just done a surgery were placed in a room with a window and the other half
51:3651分钟36秒钟were placed in a wind in a room without a window everything else is controlled it's the same surgery everything else was controlled the one that was in a
51:4451分钟44秒钟room with a window had many better outcomes different metrics just that one manipulation being able to see the light
51:5251分钟52秒钟right so so there are all so by the way there's a field called biof architecture which tries to incorporate
51:5951分钟59秒钟our innate love of nature in the design of architectural you know buildings or interior spaces and so on so that would
52:0852分钟8秒钟be another example of using evolutionary theory in a completely different field you can use evolutionary theory in medicine you could use evolutionary
52:1652分钟16秒钟theory in consumer behavior and so I argue that we can build an Institute called The consilience Institute where
52:2552分钟25秒钟filmmakers from from Hollywood can come to this institute and do a six months
52:3152分钟31秒钟stage studying about how to develop cool scripts that adhere to evolutionary
52:3852分钟38秒钟principles and uh evolutionary computer scientists can also come in what's unifying all of us is an understanding
52:4652分钟46秒钟of the importance of evolutionary theory in these very dis desparate disciplines that's fascinating pretty cool stuff huh it's very very cool stuff because it's
52:5452分钟54秒钟it's always so interesting to think of what what are the motivations of human thinking and
53:0153分钟1秒钟how where where where do we trip on ourself where do we trip on our own just our own programming essentially I we're
53:1053分钟10秒钟essentially operating with a A system that was in place back when we were Hunter and gatherers we have the same system and that's by the way called in
第 20 章：Mismatch Hypothesis
53:1853分钟18秒钟evolutionary medicine what you the exact word you just said it's called the mismatch hypothesis the argument is that many of and I know you're very
53:2653分钟26秒钟interested in health so I think you like this this is uh this is not my research this is from other evolutionary medical guys I think the top nine
53:3653分钟36秒钟killers in health are related to the mismatch hypothesis which means that
53:4253分钟42秒钟something that could have been perfectly adaptive a hundred years ago in the modern world becomes maladaptive so for
53:5153分钟51秒钟example and hence the mismatch so whether it be colon cancer or diabetes I abetes or heart disease or so on what ends up happening with each of these
54:0054分钟diseases is that misalignment between what was evolutionary adaptive back then and evolutionary maladaptive now creates
54:0854分钟8秒钟that health condition let me give you a concrete example we've evolve the taste buds the gustatory preferences to prefer
54:1754分钟17秒钟fatty foods whether because of caloric uncertainty caloric scarcity that makes perfect evolutionary sense when as a
54:2554分钟25秒钟hunter gatherer I have to spend 30,000 calories to go out and hunt and I may not return with game but then when I do
54:3254分钟32秒钟get the the the game then I I gorge on that meat because I don't know when I'm going to eat next right in today's environment of plentitude I don't face
54:4154分钟41秒钟caloric uncertainty and caloric uh scarcity I become fat I overeat because that mechanism of gorging on fatty foods
54:5054分钟50秒钟still is in me so we still have that mechanism but it becomes maladaptive and so incorporating an evolutionary lens into
55:0055分钟medicine often ends up with completely different medical interventions than that which the typical physician who's
55:0855分钟8秒钟not trained in evolutionary medicine would have come up with that makes sense yeah well unfortunately so many doctors don't even
55:1755分钟17秒钟take into account so many factors in health yeah and this thing that you're talking about this uh desire for fatty
55:2555分钟25秒钟foods is uh that's a great example and you know one of the best ways that people have found to sort of mitigate
55:3355分钟33秒钟the effects of that is to only eat protein when you go on one of those carnivore diets one of the things that's so interesting about it is you naturally
55:4155分钟41秒钟limit the amount you eat yeah your body achieves sort of a homeostasis with your food because you're not consuming like I
55:5155分钟51秒钟I can sit down and eat a steak a steak alone and I'll be fine but if there's mashed potatoes sitting right there with
55:5855分钟58秒钟gravy or there's some pasta or there's a piece of bread with some butter like I'll go in I'll go in but if I'm only eating steak I don't feel the need to
56:0756分钟7秒钟eat anything else yeah I'm fully satisfied I'm not starving and know like oh my God I need more food it's like I've had plenty of food but ooh that
56:1556分钟15秒钟looks good and that is just the trick that's the trick but if you can get past that trick and just be disciplined with your diet and eat as much as you want of
56:2356分钟23秒钟eggs and fish and meat and you will lose weight like in a shocking way and you'll feel a lot better and it's kind of kind
56:3056分钟30秒钟of disturbing so are you are you on an all protein diet right now I'm I'm like 90 plus per only meat 90 plus percent
第 21 章：Food
56:3956分钟39秒钟every now and then I'll eat a cookie like I'm not ridiculous I'll have tacos if they you know I love tacos good solid Mexican taco right but it's like I know
56:4956分钟49秒钟the reality of what food is dessert is just fun it's just mouth fun it's just mouth pleasure so it's like oh this is so good good tiasu is delicious I love
56:5856分钟58秒钟it but that's just because I enjoy life I like I like going to a restaurant and a great chef Cooks you a great meal I don't think oh my God there's gluten in
57:0657分钟6秒钟it I'm not doing that for nutrition I'm doing that for enjoyment this is for passion and love and a glass of wine and
57:1457分钟14秒钟you know good conversation with friends and you know eating delicious food you're just enjoy you're taking part in a pleasurable experience that's
57:2157分钟21秒钟essentially art that was created by a chef right so that's to me but when it comes to food like what what do I use to
57:3057分钟30秒钟to fuel my body it's mostly meat mostly Wild game meat and and ribeye steaks yeah that's what I eat I had a riye
57:3757分钟37秒钟yesterday at my hotel I need fat I need a lot of protein and then I'm good and if I just eat that my brain operates better my body feels better less
57:4657分钟46秒钟inflammation the brain fog's the craziest one when I went back to the carnivore di I took a lot of time off and then I went back to it I was telling Jamie I was like dude I feel like I have
57:5557分钟55秒钟like a whole another gear like intellectually like iing I'm not I don't search for thoughts as much when I'm
58:0358分钟3秒钟eating only like that it's palpable you feelable yeah well for me it's it's because I have so many conversations with people I know when I'm off I know
58:1258分钟12秒钟when I'm like oh I'm slow like if I just flew in from [ __ ] Italy or something like that I'm tired yeah and I'm jet lagged it's a little harder to get the
58:2058分钟20秒钟gears turning you I don't feel like I'm at my best and I always notice the difference when I'm eating well always
58:2758分钟27秒钟right what are your thoughts on uh and I know very little about this so I'm really asking you cuz I I don't know anything about it all that OIC stuff are
58:3558分钟35秒钟you are you for it are you against it what's I think if you're morbidly obese it's probably a good idea to do something that helps you get going
58:4258分钟42秒钟because even if the side effects are bad it's better than you're going to die bro you're dying if you're 500 lb you're [ __ ] dying you have all the
58:4958分钟49秒钟comorbidities you probably have diabetes you probably have all sorts of [ __ ] wrong with you you can't be that big and if the if you just don't know what to do
58:5758分钟57秒钟and you don't know where to turn and your habits are so deeply ingrained in your psyche that you can't pass up ring dings and you can't stop eating sugary
59:0559分钟5秒钟cereal or whatever the [ __ ] it is that's your thing ozempic is probably a good way to get going uh you know I wish people would just get going with
59:1459分钟14秒钟discipline and they would just get going with food choices I I would like that but godamn that's hard especially if you're so far down the road cuz it takes
59:2359分钟23秒钟a long time you know when someone you know says like how do you stay in shape I'm like because I stay in shape yeah so that's the thing right I'm 57 years old
59:3259分钟32秒钟but I worked out like this when I was 17 yeah so like I don't do anything different I keep this thing going I keep the party rolling and I never let it get
59:4059分钟40秒钟fat because I I've gotten fat before but never out of shape I just gotten fat because I ate too much food right I've never gotten to the point where I wasn't
59:4759分钟47秒钟fit I wasn't exercising I don't think you should ever let yourself get there because it's too [ __ ] hard to get back now if you've gone 39 years of your
59:5659分钟56秒钟life doing nothing and just eating potato chips and drinking Mountain Dew and now you're 500 lb you don't know what to do you're looking at a long
1:00:041小时4秒钟journey you're looking at a long journey to getting healthy again it's a long road and it's hard to do a long journey because you're not going to see it every
1:00:111小时11秒钟day you're not going to see any results you're going to look in the mirror you're still see your all this extra meat and fat you're going to be disgusted with yourself you want to look
1:00:201小时20秒钟like the guys at the gym it's going to take forever well I wonder I mean I guess we can calculate that but for every amount of weight that you put on
1:00:291小时29秒钟or lose what's the ratio of the speed meaning it it only takes me 3 weeks to
1:00:371小时37秒钟put on 10 pounds if I eat badly that's supposed that that number were three weeks what's the number the temporal number the time number of how long it
1:00:461小时46秒钟would take me to lose 10 pounds it's probably three four five times that so that there's well it depends on what you're doing okay so it depends on how
1:00:541小时54秒钟you're losing the weight and it depends on are you doing are you do you have multiple things going on simultaneously like have you started exercising have
1:01:021小时1分钟2秒钟you stopped uh drinking sugary sodas have you changed your diet completely are you getting enough sleep right all those things factor in getting enough
1:01:101小时1分钟10秒钟sleep is a giant Factor one of the times that people make the worst food choices is when they're tired yes I know that for a fact if I come home from the
1:01:171小时1分钟17秒钟comedy club and it's like 1:00 in the morning and I'm hungry I'll [ __ ] eat everything that's there I eat everything D I'll eat cookies I'll eat whatever the [ __ ] I want cuz I'm like I want to eat
1:01:261小时1分钟26秒钟what I want to eat right now I'm good most of the time tonight we're having spaghetti you know I'll cook a pot of
1:01:311小时1分钟31秒钟spaghetti but the tired is one but it's like what are you what are you doing to
1:01:391小时1分钟39秒钟mitigate this and have you changed your mindset and if you haven't if you're kind of dabbling and losing the weight how long is it going to take it might take a long ass time you might not ever
1:01:471小时1分钟47秒钟lose it you can't you have to like get into calorie deficit calorie deficit is hard so here's the thing though you
1:01:551小时1分钟55秒钟can't start yourself cuz some people do it the wrong way they go too extreme and they [ __ ] starve themselves and which is [ __ ] dangerous it's dangerous it's
1:02:031小时2分钟3秒钟dangerous for your heart it's dangerous for your mind it's dangerous for your body your body starts to eat itself you know there's a a process what is it
1:02:101小时2分钟10秒钟called autosis what it called I forget what the process is called um where your body starts eating its own tissue to
1:02:181小时2分钟18秒钟stay alive and uh that's what people are doing when they're on OIC unfortunately and this this is the thing where people
1:02:261小时2分钟26秒钟that are just a little overweight that get on it disturb the [ __ ] out of me like you lazy [ __ ] just go to the goddamn gym you lazy [ __ ] you're 10
1:02:351小时2分钟35秒钟pounds overweight and you're going to get on OIC that's so crazy autop that's what I thought that's what I thought you were talking about yeah wait go go back
1:02:431小时2分钟43秒钟to that again body breaks down its own tissu survive it's called l i I never heard that word before maram Mar Maris
1:02:511小时2分钟51秒钟marasmus marasmus or muscle atrophy can happen when your body's PR nutrients or oxygen or when cells are damaged so here listen so remember earli I was saying
1:03:001小时3分钟how you can incorporate evolutionary thinking into all kinds of areas so there's this these great studies that
1:03:061小时3分钟6秒钟were done looking at how the human mind can be tricked because of its desire for
1:03:131小时3分钟13秒钟variety seeking and then I of course I offer an evolutionary explanation for it but let me tell you the two studies that I have in mind I think because when you
1:03:211小时3分钟21秒钟mentioned spaghetti it it triggered that in my head so in one set of studies they took I think it was M&M's and you know M&M's can you could make you could
1:03:291小时3分钟29秒钟create a bowl with only one color M&M's or you can create a bowl with many colored M&M's that colorant objectively
1:03:381小时3分钟38秒钟speaking doesn't alter the taste it doesn't alter the smell so it is only perceptually it affects it in that your
1:03:461小时3分钟46秒钟eyes see a different color but it doesn't alter the gustatory experience and it turns out that when you offer
1:03:531小时3分钟53秒钟people the multi colored Bowl they eat more they eat more I wonder if um people that are color blind make better food
1:04:021小时4分钟2秒钟choices you just there there's your there's your research project it's kind of interesting right that's kind of cool that's but some things that are brightly
1:04:091小时4分钟9秒钟Co are really good for you you know like Peppers yeah like bell peppers you know like pretty bright red and they're pretty you know apples sure oranges
1:04:171小时4分钟17秒钟although there are some cases where and I want to talk about another variety you can study in a second but there are some cases where colors and nature are called
1:04:261小时4分钟26秒钟this was actually in my first book in 2007 I talked about aposematic coloring do you know what that means sure that's to warn you from exactly so then you you
1:04:341小时4分钟34秒钟and then I use it to explain the the hair coloring of all the wers I say that that's a form of aposematic hair
1:04:411小时4分钟41秒钟coloring so so check this out so the the Amazonian frog that lives in a very
1:04:481小时4分钟48秒钟dangerous neighborhood you'd think that it would evolve camouflaging and yet you could see it from a satellite it's so
1:04:551小时4分钟55秒钟bright yellow or red because it's saying hey idiot if you could see me you want to sort of stay wide of me I'm not even
1:05:021小时5分钟2秒钟trying to hide that's how dangerous I am here's the beauty of nature another species will co-opt that coloring scheme
1:05:111小时5分钟11秒钟and it will evolve it but it's completely harmless but people but the Predator doesn't know which is which do
1:05:181小时5分钟18秒钟you get it ah yes right so I I I use that mechanism when I'm talking about deceptive signaling and I use it in the
1:05:271小时5分钟27秒钟context of deceptive branding where people Canal Street in New York City is all about you going and buying a Prada
1:05:361小时5分钟36秒钟bag that should be $5,000 but hopefully if they faked it well I can buy it for $50 and so so that's how I take all of
1:05:441小时5分钟44秒钟these biological examples and try to apply them in economic or consumer decision-making but let me go back to variety seeking please do so you
1:05:521小时5分钟52秒钟mentioned earlier spaghetti so they did another study where they took the exact same pasta and they either gave it to
1:06:001小时6分钟you in a plate of one shaped pasta or in a plate of multi-shape but it's the same
1:06:071小时6分钟7秒钟pasta so it it doesn't change anything but I can give it to you whatever it's called fella or this and I guess you can guess what they they ate more when it's
1:06:161小时6分钟16秒钟the multiform pasta even though interes Isn't that cool you know what's interesting too you just brought up Brands like brands are interesting it's
1:06:241小时6分钟24秒钟really fascinating how brands have status attached to them and people are so attached to acquiring these brands
1:06:321小时6分钟32秒钟that they'll have fake ones of course and the fake bag thing to me is the nuttiest one because it's just a bag
1:06:401小时6分钟40秒钟it's not a fake Ferrari like if you if you buy a fake Ferrari you're going to notice the moment you start D this thing's a piece of [ __ ] right it's not going to handle well it's going to sound
1:06:481小时6分钟48秒钟terrible won't be fast a real F it's like the re what you're buying you're you're paying for the engineering of this magnific piece of technology well
1:06:571小时6分钟57秒钟most most people are buying the show off so they're doing that too but rich people aren't stupid all right the reason why Ferraris are so expensive and
1:07:051小时7分钟5秒钟they sell so many of them is because you buy them you go holy [ __ ] it's worth it the reason why it developed this brand
1:07:121小时7分钟12秒钟status is because they win races right that's why Lewis Hamilton drives for Ferrari that's why they that's why they
1:07:191小时7分钟19秒钟sell Ferraris cuz Ferraris are the [ __ ] you know but also I wouldn't you know by the way wouldn't recommend a long
1:07:251小时7分钟25秒钟tripping one uh do do you know that the upper uppers usually and you've met many
1:07:331小时7分钟33秒钟of them uh don't drive super ostentatious cars they downplay it they get like a regular Porsche 911 not even
1:07:401小时7分钟40秒钟the turbo not even that maybe but do you know you know why do you know do you know why from an evolutionary because they have to hide they're hiding a
1:07:481小时7分钟48秒钟little bit they're Cameo they're like the frog that pretends to look like the leaf perhaps but it's because when I'm n
1:07:561小时7分钟56秒钟I just entered that thing I want to demonstrate to everybody that I'm the real deal right and for many other
1:08:031小时8分钟3秒钟people who are in my circle they may not be able to afford the ostentatious $350,000 Ferrari but when I am an upper
1:08:121小时8分钟12秒钟upper in the billionaire class then me driving a $350,000 car is not a costly
1:08:191小时8分钟19秒钟signal in a biological sense of my worth because every single member of my billionaire friend group could match
1:08:271小时8分钟27秒钟that signal therefore the way I can then compete with my billionaire friends is
1:08:341小时8分钟34秒钟if I can spend my money in a lavish uh wasteful way such that I buy
1:08:411小时8分钟41秒钟an art piece that a monkey could have come up with and I pay $180 million of
1:08:481小时8分钟48秒钟it right right that makes me big dog because you don't have enough money Joel to be able to buy what a monkey and I paid 180 million
1:08:561小时8分钟56秒钟both of us can buy the Maserati and so that's where I use the principle of costly signaling from biology to explain
1:09:041小时9分钟4秒钟ostentatious behaviors in consumer Behavior God that's the dumbest Flex isn't it especially the modern art Flex
1:09:121小时9分钟12秒钟I can't stand that [ __ ] I used to go to LACMA the LA Modern Art Museum and I would get angry like Angry like I just
1:09:211小时9分钟21秒钟I've done the same thing just like like just furious because you're you're feeling that they're cheating you from the experience of seeing real art this
1:09:291小时9分钟29秒钟is not art there's one of them is literally a plexiglass box that's sitting on the ground I'm like you dumb
1:09:351小时9分钟35秒钟[ __ ] you dumb [ __ ]
1:09:381小时9分钟38秒钟meanwhile if you go on Instagram you find amazing art there's so many artists out there like legitimate incredible artists like what you're doing is
1:09:461小时9分钟46秒钟[ __ ] like one of them was a video of people playing catch that was their art like [ __ ] you that's postmodernism by the way right there are no objective
1:09:551小时9分钟55秒钟aesthetic standards yeah so anything goes so in the parasitic mind I have a section where I talk about so like you it so you mention where was it it was an
1:10:031小时10分钟3秒钟an LA Museum okay so I had gone to visit I think it was in 1996 couple years after my PhD one of my fellow phds from
1:10:121小时10分钟12秒钟my school had gotten a job as a professor in Carnegie melon in Pittsburgh so I went to visit him and so he was busy teaching or something so I
1:10:201小时10分钟20秒钟said oh you know I'll go to the Carnegie Museum and hang out and see stuff so exactly like like the experience you had
1:10:261小时10分钟26秒钟there was an empty canvas so I went looked for someone who was working there I said can I see the curator please well
1:10:341小时10分钟34秒钟how can we help you sir I said well I'd like to discuss the this this art piece so then this other woman comes to me says how can I help you sir super you
1:10:421小时10分钟42秒钟know I said you know what is this [ __ ] so she goes did you say [ __ ] well maybe not [ __ ] but like what what is this can you explain
1:10:511小时10分钟51秒钟this to me I I paid an entrance fee to see this right and what do you think she said I don't know well is look it it triggered a a reaction in you isn't that
1:11:001小时11分钟what art art is all about I'm like okay I went to see Yoko Ono's uh exhibit once of course she did she had an exhibit at
1:11:081小时11分钟8秒钟uh in Boston when I was living in Boston and one of the pieces was a block of wood with a box of nails and a hammer
1:11:171小时11分钟17秒钟and she encouraged people to take a nail and knock it into the piece of wood she encouraged people to participate that's right they're cre the art with her it's
1:11:261小时11分钟26秒钟collaborative process this was the art was Nails on a piece of wood do you think that when she does that she
1:11:341小时11分钟34秒钟believes it or she knows in the Deep recesses of her mind that she's a charlatan I would have to talk to her I don't know so forget about her just in
1:11:411小时11分钟41秒钟general when the way she separated John Lennon from the Beatles the way you know
1:11:481小时11分钟48秒钟like everybody like if if you're in a band and one of the band members has a girlfriend the girlfriend now gets get involved in the band and starts talking
1:11:571小时11分钟57秒钟about like you know you need to Tre treat him better that's Yoko Ono everybody calls her Yoko Ono like that's like a standard thing that people do
1:12:041小时12分钟4秒钟because they think that Yoko Ono was a wedge that dri drove so a person who can do that with an intelligent guy like John Lennon like John Lennon was very
1:12:131小时12分钟13秒钟smart right very smart guy so a person who could like serve as and he wanted to spend all of his time with her that's
1:12:201小时12分钟20秒钟probably a master Persuader that's probably someone who's like really good at playing you really good at pulling
1:12:281小时12分钟28秒钟your strings how about playing herself because remember the best way to tell a li is to First believe it yourself did
1:12:351小时12分钟35秒钟you ever see when um she appeared with John Lennon and they played on television with Chuck Barry no and she
1:12:421小时12分钟42秒钟starts singing into the microphone and Chuck Barry freaks out because she sucks she's screaming she just starts screaming into the microphone while
1:12:491小时12分钟49秒钟they're playing so this they're playing Johnny Be Good oh my God you never saw it no the best version of it is Bill Burr cuz Bill Burr talks over it he like
1:12:591小时12分钟59秒钟explains what's happening you know in his uh inimitable billur way he's just getting angry watching Yoko Ono just
1:13:081小时13分钟8秒钟scream like a banshee and you see the look on on on uh their faces when they're looking you know it's just it's
1:13:151小时13分钟15秒钟one of those things where if you see you can't believe it's real you know that my a friend of mine recently told me he was actually a former student of mine who's
1:13:221小时13分钟22秒钟a good friend now he told me that that that famous San that they had happened in Montreal did you know that I did not know yeah I did not know that it was
1:13:311小时13分钟31秒钟like 1969 at the I think Queen Elizabeth maybe Jamie will pull it off a lot of crazy things happened in Montreal sugaray Leonard versus Roberto Durant
1:13:391小时13分钟39秒钟that is true that's right how well I guess I would expect you to know that yeah yeah that was like 81 ' 80s
1:13:471小时13分钟47秒钟somewhere in the 80s right cuz he won a gold medal in the 76 Olympics and by then he was a world champion yeah some
1:13:551小时13分钟55秒钟in the ' 80s so yeah yeah yeah so do have you you've met all these guys I I've never really met Sugar Ray I saw him in a UFC I did meet Roberto Duran
1:14:041小时14分钟4秒钟though it was amazing what did you think I mean that's what I love about our conversation just goes anywhere uh what did you think about the Mike Tyson thing
1:14:111小时14分钟11秒钟that just uh with the Jack Paul and so on uh Jake Paul I'm happy they made money I'll leave it at that that's what
1:14:201小时14分钟20秒钟I think yeah okay okay I think it looked like sparring to me yeah looked like sparring it didn't look like anybody was trying to hurt anybody really okay yeah
1:14:291小时14分钟29秒钟which is good and you know whatever draw your own conclusions I have no facts you've met you've met
1:14:361小时14分钟36秒钟Tyson I paid for it yes I love Tyson I've met Jake Paul too he's a cool guy I'm happy they made money I've I paid
1:14:431小时14分钟43秒钟for it I don't care right yeah I was hoping it was going to be a real fight but I was like okay I see what's going on right like if you and I sparred we
1:14:511小时14分钟51秒钟could put on the gloves and we could go back into the gym and we could spar and it would look almost like we're really fighting no because you'd punch me once
1:14:591小时14分钟59秒钟and i' be dead I wouldn't I would do it like at your speed oh I would do it at your speed I just bring myself to your speed and just move around with you
1:15:071小时15分钟7秒钟that's that's kind of what can I tell you something I would actually be interested in doing that okay we could do it it's fine but I'm G to suck so
1:15:141小时15分钟14秒钟badly no I won't suck the thing about doing that with someone who's going to be nice to you is that you can actually learn how to do it because you don't worry about getting hit so like the the
1:15:231小时15分钟23秒钟best sparring that I ever got ever was uh when I learned to spar with people who had the same intentions as me just
1:15:311小时15分钟31秒钟getting better and not we're not trying to kill each other right so my early days of sparring when I was a young man
1:15:371小时15分钟37秒钟um I I trained at a very hard gym and we in kickboxing we try to kill each other and so there was wars in the gym
1:15:451小时15分钟45秒钟essentially every day you were fighting whenever you sparred you were essentially fighting you weren't pulling punches you were hitting each other as hard as you could it's a really dumb way
1:15:521小时15分钟52秒钟to do it but that's how you make a tough guy right like that's the idea back then um now I think people are much more
1:15:591小时15分钟59秒钟concerned with uh CTE brain damage the longevity of a Fighter's career that they would have people fight smart and so the thing is like training Partners
1:16:081小时16分钟8秒钟especially in Jiu-Jitsu you learn to really value your training partners because your training Partners help you get better and you have to trust them like if somebody gets me any heel hook I
1:16:161小时16分钟16秒钟have to trust them that they're not just going to rip my knee apart and they're going to let me tap they got me give me a second let me tap when I know I can't
1:16:231小时16分钟23秒钟get out let me tap don't rip it apart and then let go as soon as the person Taps this is like a if you don't do that in Jiu-Jitsu you won't have people to
1:16:311小时16分钟31秒钟train with you and you get kicked out of schools and people have been kicked out of schools because they don't let go of TAPS they don't they don't let go go of submissions so like you develop this
1:16:391小时16分钟39秒钟understanding that you both could get hurt really easily I trust you I know you're going to go hard and I'm going to go hard but I know that we we're going to be safe with each other we're not going to do anything to each other that
1:16:481小时16分钟48秒钟we know it's going to hurt each other right so this is what you do in kickboxing too but you have to trust that the person is going to do this they're not going to hit you hard like
1:16:561小时16分钟56秒钟A's going to hit me in the body he's going to hit me in the body like this where we're both okay we know he could have really hurt me but he just touched
1:17:031小时17分钟3秒钟me so he so he's getting his timing he's getting his movement and we're both moving fast but we're both really good so we have the ability to control so
1:17:101小时17分钟10秒钟instead of blasting through someone and punching him you punch him like that you literally punch him like that where you just touching yeah 100% you you're not
1:17:181小时17分钟18秒钟even going 50% right you're just touching you you you know you're going fast you and occasionally unfortunately sometimes you hit someone harder than
1:17:261小时17分钟26秒钟you mean to because they move into something or you both hit each other at the same time it's occasionally but you mitigate a whole lot of impact and and
1:17:351小时17分钟35秒钟then you also develop your timing better because you're not worried about getting hit so the best way to learn boxing is first of all before you do any kind of
1:17:441小时17分钟44秒钟sparring is learn technique technique is everything it's everything mechanics are everything learning getting it
1:17:521小时17分钟52秒钟ingrained in your your your body's system where you know that if you're going to throw a punch you're going to
1:17:591小时17分钟59秒钟lean your body into it you're going to keep your hand up when you throw a right hand you're going to do this when you throw the left hook you're going to cover up with your right hand you're you
1:18:071小时18分钟7秒钟you learn these things so they're ingrained in your movement patterns and then you do them on pads and the the pad Holder will like throw things at you so
1:18:161小时18分钟16秒钟that you cover up and you learn distance and you learn how to pull away and counter and you learn all these things and then slowly you start incorporating
1:18:251小时18分钟25秒钟moving targets you start incorporating a person and the best way to do that is not get two people try to kill each other CU that's what we used to do you don't learn anything the best way to do
1:18:331小时18分钟33秒钟it is have someone gently move around with you and they're like hands up hands up and you move around and like you go through a whole round where you're not even allowed to punch just do defense
1:18:411小时18分钟41秒钟and iect I just want you I just want you covering I just want you moving good I want head movement I want you to be an elusive Target and when punches come at
1:18:491小时18分钟49秒钟you I want you to be able to move away cuz I I was going to say that when when I was a soccer player the the type of trainings we do because you have to do a lot of Sprints is very different than
1:18:581小时18分钟58秒钟the type of Fitness that I do now which is usually I just get on the treadmill and I do a bit of interval training but I just kind of either run or fast walk
1:19:071小时19分钟7秒钟uphill without these kinds of anerobic right and so I'm kind of looking at although I just turned 60 by the way uh
1:19:161小时19分钟16秒钟in October congratulations thank you so I'm looking to do something that raises my heart level in a way that is akin to what I suppose would happen if you got
1:19:251小时19分钟25秒钟into a ring how your heart rate would kind of go up in ways that I'm probably not testing my heart currently because I just get on the tread mill and I just
1:19:331小时19分钟33秒钟jog yeah I mean there's a whole bunch of workouts you could just do online you could find online on YouTube there's hundreds of different people that put
1:19:411小时19分钟41秒钟out free workouts and you know you could do them with two 10B dumbbells that's true and you know they'll take you through all this different stuff like
1:19:491小时19分钟49秒钟pistol squats do this do that you know overhead press do this do that and then they'll work you through the Reps you all you have to do is follow along have
1:19:561小时19分钟56秒钟you ever seen the training Regiment of Alvin CRA no who's that Alvin CRA is uh
1:20:041小时20分钟4秒钟I mean recently he's kind of had a couple of off years but he he's sort of the feature back running back of the uh
1:20:111小时20分钟11秒钟New Orleans Saints uh he's an allpurpose bag meaning that he both runs but he also catches the ball a lot right so
1:20:181小时20分钟18秒钟he's really he does he's a generalist he's a polymath and I've always loved the way he moves he moves very very elegantly like almost like a so he's
1:20:271小时20分钟27秒钟both power but also if you remember how Barry Sanders was in the late 90s do you remember who that was he was a Detroit Lions running back and so I thought this
1:20:361小时20分钟36秒钟guy runs unique in a unique way that's different from all the other players and I I oh I know who I was thinking I had
1:20:431小时20分钟43秒钟Dean Kane on my show do you know who Dean Kane is sure Superman Superman and who used to be a football player right and so we were discussing our favorite football players and I was telling him
1:20:521小时20分钟52秒钟oh this was about three four years ago I said oh my favorite player is Alvin kamarra so then he tells me go on YouTube and watch the types of trainings
1:21:011小时21分钟1秒钟he does to uh develop those movements and as a big Fitness guy just go watch
1:21:081小时21分钟8秒钟it is a lot of Plyometrics a lot of Plyometrics a lot of stuff where you know they they throw a ball and he and he he's standing on a bounce on a u
1:21:181小时21分钟18秒钟balancing ball what is that called the platform and he's trying to catch balls that he that they're throwing I mean I would have a hard time just staying on
1:21:251小时21分钟25秒钟that damn thing there you go oh yeah that's crazy it what that's exactly his trainer
1:21:331小时21分钟33秒钟you have to see what this guy makes him do it's unbelievable he's like a ballerina well that makes sense that that he would be so agile and mobile
1:21:411小时21分钟41秒钟because he's doing all these you can't just like do squats you know if you want to be an amazing athlete you have to do a bunch of different things oh this is
1:21:491小时21分钟49秒钟cool oh a lot of explosions left and right oh he un look at this wow that's crazy hopping back and forth on
1:21:561小时21分钟56秒钟ball to ball with balance on one leg isn't that unbelievable yeah it is oh I'm so glad you brought thank you Jamie it does make sense though that you you
1:22:041小时22分钟4秒钟know you need to develop all this stuff if you want to look at that he's got that's look at his Stu look at his stuff crazy he's got to stick with the right
1:22:111小时22分钟11秒钟ball standing on one foot I bet he has insane balance look look at those legs that balance is insane that thing is so hard to stand on anyway yeah especially
1:22:201小时22分钟20秒钟with one leg I'm so I'm it's exciting that I shared something thing with you who's like this huge Fitness expert that you didn't know cool yeah I've seen
1:22:281小时22分钟28秒钟people do similar types of workouts but that's very impressive yeah that that kind of I mean it just makes sense that if you want to separate yourself from
1:22:361小时22分钟36秒钟everybody else like what do you need to do to separate yourself like Elite balance Elite there's this guy Arman sarian who was supposed to be fighting
1:22:441小时22分钟44秒钟um Islam makev for the world lightweight UFC title but he HT his back literally like the day before the the
1:22:521小时22分钟52秒钟weigh-ins it's probably because of the weight cut they cut he cuts a lot of weight he's very muscular but one of the things that this guy does that's really
1:22:591小时22分钟59秒钟extraordinary they put out his workout he does these incredible Mobility exercises like he's insanely flexible
1:23:071小时23分钟7秒钟he's like jacked like super muscular but like ridiculously mobile and pliable wow and he's doing see if you can find his
1:23:151小时23分钟15秒钟uh workout routine he does all these uh crazy exercises where they're like twisting them in weird positions and
1:23:231小时23分钟23秒钟it's very unusual for a guy that's that strong to to be that agile and mobile are are you do you have a lot of flexibility yeah but that's just because
1:23:321小时23分钟32秒钟I started when I was a really young kid I started in martial arts and I was stretching from the time I was developing I genuinely believe that my
1:23:401小时23分钟40秒钟muscles are made of glass no that's all horseshit see if you can find this is yeah this he does a lot of this stuff
1:23:471小时23分钟47秒钟like look at these twisting motions he does a lot of like weird Mobility stuff like hip mobility like look at all this
1:23:551小时23分钟55秒钟wow it's all very so he's pulling on a cable machine and like look how flexible he is wow it's
1:24:021小时24分钟2秒钟nuts and this is like a core part of his training that is very different than a lot of other people's training like look
1:24:101小时24分钟10秒钟oh my goodness his ability to stand on his head like that and move his whole body around in a circle what the hell incredibly agile so this is not
1:24:181小时24分钟18秒钟something that every person no that's this is super unusual I mean there's some wrestlers that do this kind of stuff is pretty common I do these but
1:24:271小时24分钟27秒钟he's like got a it's a core part of his training is his physicality his physicality is very this is him with Hamza chamv who's one of the top
1:24:351小时24分钟35秒钟middleweight contenders one of the absolute best fighters in the world and you know he's giving him a run for it wow they're really good I mean watching
1:24:431小时24分钟43秒钟him roll like hzza rolls through everybody and he's having a hard time controlling this guy and this guy fights two weight classes below him that's how good he is the blue guy is the smaller
1:24:521小时24分钟52秒钟guy the blue guy is much smaller so humza is uh he's 185lb guy and at one point he fought at 170 but he was
1:25:001小时25分钟cutting a shitload of weight but even at 185 he's next in line for the title and this kid kiss kid's fighting at 155 right so he's quite a bit smaller and
1:25:081小时25分钟8秒钟still giving them you know it's he's not allowing Hamot to run him over which is very impressive wow so what what's the
1:25:161小时25分钟16秒钟trajectory of MMA next is it all turn it into an Olympic sport what what are I hope so I hope MMA becomes an Olympic sport it should is that on the on the
1:25:251小时25分钟25秒钟agenda I don't I mean I know they've pushed for it okay it should be you know I know there's Combat Sports obviously in the Olympics boxing in Judo
1:25:331小时25分钟33秒钟particular in Taekwondo now as well and you've got the Australian breakdown here too that one was amazing do you think that was a troller was real I think that
1:25:421小时25分钟42秒钟was Hubris I think that was a person who didn't think they were going to get scrutinized yeah who uh use their
1:25:491小时25分钟49秒钟position of influence to acquire a PhD in this stuff she has yeah but also there's like legit break dancers in
1:25:571小时25分钟57秒钟Australia if you well Google Australian break dancers there's people that are legit I love break dancing I love watching it it's so impressive like the
1:26:051小时26分钟5秒钟Locking and all that stuff no the physical moves all the the when they do a flip and land on one leg and then flip back the other way there's a couple guys
1:26:131小时26分钟13秒钟uh Richie and Gio um Martinez that are black belts under 10th plan at Jiu-Jitsu and they started out their career as
1:26:201小时26分钟20秒钟break dancing and they were so hard to hold on to and they were so m Mile and so agile that Eddie started incorporating like break dancing into
1:26:281小时26分钟28秒钟his training like learning break dance techniques because it's just basically kind of gymnastics right you know and a lot of these guys they can stand on one
1:26:371小时26分钟37秒钟arm and spin around in a circle with their feet in like a Lotus position like it's bananas Brazilian self-defense or an Israeli self yeah cap yeah capera but
1:26:461小时26分钟46秒钟capera was like a dance that the slaves had created that they were disguising a martial art and a
1:26:531小时26分钟53秒钟dance allegedly I'm not not an expert in capera but a lot of the capera moves they they dance but they're dancing into
1:27:011小时27分钟1秒钟wheel kicks they're dancing into like tornado kicks like it's these are weapons right like they're techniques but you could pretend that it's just a
1:27:101小时27分钟10秒钟dance right but it's kind of oh that's so the origin is a slavery thing okay I might be wrong about that I don't think I am I think that's one of the things
1:27:171小时27分钟17秒钟that they did was they hid it they hid their martial art in dance one of these left W left turns we take through our connections of conversation I recently
1:27:261小时27分钟26秒钟had a guest on my show uh who's an expert on Frederick Douglas do you know who that is sure uh regrettably not
1:27:351小时27分钟35秒钟enough Americans not enough of anybody knows who he is and of course he was in the era of you know when slavery was
1:27:421小时27分钟42秒钟being abolished and have you ever seen his face yes doesn't he look as though he's like a Nubian King the way how
1:27:501小时27分钟50秒钟Regal he looks let's see a photo of Frederick douas and I told to the scholar and he goes you're exactly right look at that look at that imagine that guy teaching your
1:27:591小时27分钟59秒钟classes oh my God I'm getting warm and I'm a heterosexual
1:28:071小时28分钟7秒钟male and also Imagine to be intellectual and a black man in that day and age and
1:28:141小时28分钟14秒钟he didn't know how to read and learned it later and if you read his stuff it's
1:28:201小时28分钟20秒钟unbelievable like the the eloquence that he had it's not as though he learned how to read the way a typical child learns
1:28:271小时28分钟27秒钟at 3 4 5 that that happened later in his life and then you see the production of quality he prod it's unbelievable so I
1:28:361小时28分钟36秒钟really recommend everybody certainly Americans as part of your history read about fedck Douglas he's unbelievable how old was he when he learned how to
1:28:431小时28分钟43秒钟read so I don't want to misspeak I'm not sure but let's go probably Jamie can pull it off but probably 12 133 connection between literacy and
1:28:521小时28分钟52秒钟freedom not allowed to attend school he taught him to read and write the streets of Baltimore at 12 he bought a b there you go that's exactly what I said so 123
1:29:001小时29分钟um do you know who Rick Ross is no not the rapper but Freeway Ricky Ross no I don't think Rick Ross was a cocaine
1:29:081小时29分钟8秒钟dealer in the 1980s that didn't know at the time but he was a part of the whole
1:29:161小时29分钟16秒钟Oliver North thing where they were selling cocaine in the LA streets and they were using the money to
1:29:241小时29分钟24秒钟uhuh okay that you know the that the United States so this is like pretty established they sold cocaine in the LA
1:29:321小时29分钟32秒钟ghettos to fund the contous versus the Sistas in Nicaragua right and this guy was the guy who is funneling all the
1:29:401小时29分钟40秒钟cocaine through he was making millions of dollars couldn't read Goes to Jail goes to jail for selling cocaine for the
1:29:471小时29分钟47秒钟government for the government in jail learns how to read and then becomes a lawyer and then re tries his own case
1:29:551小时29分钟55秒钟and gets out because they they tried him on the three strikes rule This Is How They convicted him on three strikes but it was three strikes from one incident
1:30:041小时30分钟4秒钟it's supposed to be three strikes separate things exactly and so he got out so he's out now wow yeah so he's been on my podcast a few times he oh so
1:30:131小时30分钟13秒钟I'll check it out so brilliant guy he so he learned how to read jail in jail yeah amazing could not read amazing yeah so one of the biggest stressors I face when
1:30:221小时30分钟22秒钟I travel speaking about reading is I've got a very very big personal library of books many of which I've yet to read and
1:30:311小时30分钟31秒钟I wake up every day worried that am I am I going to run out of time in life and not read these books so whenever I travel and I'm going to bring a book to
1:30:381小时30分钟38秒钟read on that trip I sit there the guy who studies psychology of decision- making I have complete decision paralysis because I would usually my
1:30:461小时30分钟46秒钟wife will tell me you're leaving in 24 hours why don't you now go and anguish get in anguish for the next six hours as you know my hair is pick a book yeah so
1:30:541小时30分钟54秒钟I'm like oh this one no this one and I'm literally sitting there interesting yeah interesting you you I think you listen
1:31:021小时31分钟2秒钟to books you don't read them right I do read occasionally but like 90% of them I listen to yeah I I I need that tactile thing I can't do the the tactile thing
1:31:101小时31分钟10秒钟is great but for me it's a time thing I can get listening in when I'm in my car and when I'm in the sauna so those are so and you feel you you pretty much
1:31:191小时31分钟19秒钟retain as much or or not as as it's hard to say because it's kind of the only way I'm accessing information these days but I retain a lot of it okay it depends on
1:31:281小时31分钟28秒钟what it always depends on whether or not I'm excited about the information always if I'm very excited about it I retain
1:31:351小时31分钟35秒钟most of it if I'm just like forcing myself to pay attention and then my mind drifts off into something else then comes back and like that's a little bit
1:31:431小时31分钟43秒钟of a problem like if things become rep like I've lately I have been uh listening to a lot of UFO stuff okay a
1:31:521小时31分钟52秒钟lot of UFO abductions stories a lot of UFO I'm go going through jacqu vet's stuff because he's coming on the podcast
1:32:001小时32分钟again and so I've been going through all of his books he's got several books and he's got a very nuanced perspective on
1:32:061小时32分钟6秒钟this whole UFO thing that is uh I didn't know and I wish I knew the first time I had him on because the first time I had him on I knew that he was the guy who
1:32:151小时32分钟15秒钟was uh in he inspired the French scientist in the Steven Spielberg movie Clos Encounters of the Third Kind okay
1:32:221小时32分钟22秒钟did you see that movie I did see it this is 1977 right yes so there's a French scientist in that film that is uh
1:32:301小时32分钟30秒钟coordinating all these uh people that are trying to contact this UFO and they're they're working this out like
1:32:361小时32分钟36秒钟how to do it it's based on jacqu F and jacqu valet has been involved in the research of these experiences that
1:32:451小时32分钟45秒钟people had had or allegedly had with being abducted with sightings with crash sites and all these different things
1:32:521小时32分钟52秒钟he's been involved with it for a long time where are you on the Zero I absolutely don't believe any of this 100
1:33:001小时33分钟I fully believe in this what's your score I the more time goes on the more I think it's way weirder than we think I I
1:33:101小时33分钟10秒钟don't dismiss the idea that something from another planet can come here and visit us I have a feeling it's weirder I
1:33:181小时33分钟18秒钟have a feeling there may be that and then also other things I have a feeling it's way more complicated I have a
1:33:261小时33分钟26秒钟feeling it's like life like if you told me that if you go to Earth you can find life okay well what kind of Life are you
1:33:341小时33分钟34秒钟talking about you talking about like fish are you talking about Raptors are you talking about dogs like what kind of life there's so much life there's so
1:33:411小时33分钟41秒钟much different life I have a feeling that alien contact intelligent beings from somewhere other than here is like
1:33:491小时33分钟49秒钟that I think it's probably more complex than we can imagine and probably there's an interdimensional aspect to it there's
1:33:571小时33分钟57秒钟probably a non-physical aspect to it that seems physical too there's probably an area of this phenomenon that plays on
1:34:061小时34分钟6秒钟human consciousness and dreams and our interactions with the unknown because I think there's more to life than we can
1:34:141小时34分钟14秒钟perceive I think there's more to the existence this this this conscious existence in this moment in the universe
1:34:221小时34分钟22秒钟there's more to it than we're picking up on I think we have limited senses and I think that this is what things like the telepathy tapes and all these different
1:34:311小时34分钟31秒钟people that are studying paranormal phenomenon I think that's what this stuff is all about I think it's part of an emerging aspect of human
1:34:381小时34分钟38秒钟consciousness that we're developing stronger and stronger senses in regards to things that aren't they're not something that you can just put on a
1:34:471小时34分钟47秒钟scale they're not something that you could take a rule or two they's not something that you can quantify but they probably exist and if you I don't know if you've listened to the telepathy
1:34:551小时34分钟55秒钟tapes I haven't but I just started watching I think three days ago a Netflix series so you'll know this
1:35:031小时35分钟3秒钟better because I don't remember what it's called it's supposedly a New York case in the late 1980s that's the most
1:35:111小时35分钟11秒钟famous UFO Abduction case is this ringing the bell I don't know about the 1980 the most famous Cas is like Betty and Barney Hill and they were in the
1:35:191小时35分钟19秒钟1950s that's and then the other one is Travis Walton he's this guy right here oh they made a movie out of it called Fire in the Sky but maybe I don't know
1:35:281小时35分钟28秒钟if Jamie can pull out it's it's a Netflix series that just it's a documentry series that just start that I think came out this year or this past
1:35:351小时35分钟35秒钟year there is kind of a guy I don't think he's a professor or something but he's a guy who's like the investigator who who
1:35:431小时35分钟43秒钟Cates what's it called the man Al abduction that's the one thank you thank you Jamie this is is that oh you don't
1:35:501小时35分钟50秒钟know this one no I'm not all they sold it as the most famous most you know
1:35:571小时35分钟57秒钟documented case of UFO abductions it might be okay I mean I don't know what to think of those things I've read John
1:36:041小时36分钟4秒钟Mack's book John Mack was a uh uh psychiatrist at Harvard and he or a psychologist I forget which one um he uh
1:36:121小时36分钟12秒钟wrote a book called abduction that was all about hypnotic regression therapy that he did with all these different people that had these abduction
1:36:191小时36分钟19秒钟experiences and they were all really similar like eerily similar and there's no way that they could have no they they weren't communicating with each other they didn't know about it they were they
1:36:281小时36分钟28秒钟were ashamed of these stories they didn't want to tell other people they were telling them to their shrink but they weren't telling them to other people it's a it's a weird thing man I
1:36:361小时36分钟36秒钟and but here's the thing they all come back like no one gets abducted and gets kidnapped like what's going on are you really leaving or is this in your mind in your mind did you leave like what
1:36:451小时36分钟45秒钟happened to your body were you if I had a camera in your room were you in that bed the whole time is this experience all happening inside your mind and is it
1:36:521小时36分钟52秒钟still real like just because some things I think there's Dimensions that we don't have access to that exist around us and
1:37:001小时37分钟these guys that pretend to understand quantum theory and all that stuff when they start talking to you about it talking about multiple Dimensions it leaves room for the possibility of these
1:37:071小时37分钟7秒钟things I actually had so I've had a lot of amazing guests on my show you know top professors of all kinds arguably the
1:37:171小时37分钟17秒钟best conversation I've had which is saying a lot with a guest on my show is one of the pioneers of Quantum Computing
1:37:251小时37分钟25秒钟and and not to serve as his publicist but I think you know he'd be a great guy for you to have I'd love to talk to him what's his name his name is David Deutch
1:37:341小时37分钟34秒钟he's a physicist by uh training he wrote two uh best-selling books I think one of them is called the edge of infinity and
1:37:431小时37分钟43秒钟we tried to discuss you know what is what is quantum physics what is how do you apply that principle to Quantum
1:37:501小时37分钟50秒钟Computing and uh remember I said that there are too many professors who are not intellectuals yes well he's exactly
1:37:591小时37分钟59秒钟an intellectual because we could sit down and have a conversation where at the end of it you were so
1:38:061小时38分钟6秒钟hedonistically you know tickled in your brain that it's as if you just had sex but with you get excited you get excited
1:38:141小时38分钟14秒钟and so we had two conversations I'd urge you to listen to our conversations it was not too long ago maybe three four months ago amazing guy okay very I'll
1:38:221小时38分钟22秒钟try to have him on yeah that'd be great I'm fascinated by Quantum Computing Mark andreon was explaining the the experiments that they've done where they
1:38:311小时38分钟31秒钟did a calculation that if you turn the entire universe into a computer every molecule every atom of the universe was
1:38:381小时38分钟38秒钟a computer it would take so much time to solve this equation that the Universe would die of heat death first but you do it in Quantum Computing it does it four
1:38:471小时38分钟47秒钟seconds yeah quickly is that amazing couple minutes is that amazing yeah it's bananas like what is happening and he said it's proof of the multi diverse
1:38:541小时38分钟54秒钟because somehow or another this computer is contacting other quantum computers in an infinite number of universes and
1:39:021小时39分钟2秒钟using all the computing power and solving it instantaneously forgive me for being eager to jump uh on what you're saying I think if I'm not
1:39:091小时39分钟9秒钟mistaken David Deutch is one of the pioneers of the Multiverse Theory well it it kind of is the only Theory at
1:39:171小时39分钟17秒钟least it's as it's been explained to me that could work with quantum computer exactly they I was like but they don't know what's happening yeah it's like these guys are making magic do did you
1:39:251小时39分钟25秒钟do you remember the famous quote do you know who Richard fan is yes yeah so there's a quote I might get it off the quantum Compu yeah yeah where he says if you think you understand quantum physics
1:39:341小时39分钟34秒钟you don't understand quantum physics and that's pretty much how I feel when I try to understand I'm like what is this [ __ ] I don't understand any of it's so
1:39:411小时39分钟41秒钟bizarre just what's measurable about it is so bizarre like articles in super position so they're they're moving and they're still at the same time what
1:39:491小时39分钟49秒钟they're quantumly entangled photons what are you talking what yeah what does this even mean like where is this stuff like what is this I I first was exposed to
1:39:581小时39分钟58秒钟because you were just saying about the computational power that would would be required that you could reduce with cont Computing when I was first exposed to AI
1:40:061小时40分钟6秒钟so I you know my my undergrad was in mathematics computer science and so I had taken an AI course before AI was the
1:40:141小时40分钟14秒钟the [ __ ] right this was 1985 and the professor who taught me was his name is
1:40:211小时40分钟21秒钟I can't believe I remember his name mon newborn he was part of the deep blue team that was de developed do you
1:40:291小时40分钟29秒钟remember that stuff sure that's the computer that beat Gary Caspar at chess exactly exactly and so actually for one
1:40:371小时40分钟37秒钟of our assignments in that course we had to develop in a on a game it do have to
1:40:431小时40分钟43秒钟be chess but it could be some other game what what's called Alpha Beta pruning which is if you blow out the decision
1:40:521小时40分钟52秒钟tree of a typical game let's say like chest you would need 10 to the 100 nodes if I'm not mistaken which is more nodes
1:41:001小时41分钟than there are particles in the universe I think in the universe there's 10 to the 80 so there are more nodes in a chess game than there are particles or
1:41:091小时41分钟9秒钟atoms in the universe so it would take you infin so what Alpha Beta pruning does so right you're pruning so what
1:41:171小时41分钟17秒钟it's basically doing is it starts testing going down the tree and if it seems like no good outcome from here you
1:41:251小时41分钟25秒钟you prune that tree so what you're doing is you're reducing the computational complexity of the tree so that you can
1:41:311小时41分钟31秒钟arrive to a final solution much quicker and so that was the original time that I was exposed to Ai
1:41:391小时41分钟39秒钟and and at the time I thought wow AI is going to take over the world and then AI went through a winter where it kind of
1:41:461小时41分钟46秒钟died out and it's only in the last three four five years that really has exploded but I want to tell you a few uh assignments that I had back then and I
1:41:541小时41分钟54秒钟would challenge someone to solve them on your show and post the answers I still remember them okay I was an A+ student so here's
1:42:021小时42分钟2秒钟one uh if you take a string of ones and zeros right any string so it could be
1:42:111小时42分钟11秒钟one one one0 one01 0 or it could be 1 million long it could be okay you and I
1:42:171小时42分钟17秒钟will play a game we start I let's say I start I have to either take out the end
1:42:261小时42分钟26秒钟digit from this side or the end digit from that side then when it's your turn you take out the end digit from this side or that side we keep going until we
1:42:341小时42分钟34秒钟get to one digit remaining whomever is left with that digit if it's a one they
1:42:421小时42分钟42秒钟win if it's a zero they lose do do you follow the game so far yes so what Professor newborn had asked us to do as
1:42:491小时42分钟49秒钟an assignment 1985 40 years ago is can you tell us this is called a deterministic game meaning that there is
1:42:581小时42分钟58秒钟a way to a prior know who would win the game before we even play just by looking
1:43:081小时43分钟8秒钟at some characteristic of any string so you understand what I'm saying yeah yeah so then my question to your and don't
1:43:171小时43分钟17秒钟cheat and go check it on Google or even I have it on my YouTube channel somewhere so the the thing is what are
1:43:251小时43分钟25秒钟the characteristics of any string that would allow us to deterministically know before we begin playing whether Gad or
1:43:341小时43分钟34秒钟Joe will win so that's game one okay and let's see if anybody's gonna post it on you I know you don't read the comments but whatever what would be a
1:43:421小时43分钟42秒钟characteristic that you would take into consideration okay so this is not a correct one but it's too bad that I'm saying it because you can go down that
1:43:501小时43分钟50秒钟path for 5 hours before you realize it's not correct so I'm saying giv a lot of people Alpha Beta uh is it a ratio of
1:43:581小时43分钟58秒钟how many ones and zeros that any string has so for example is it if it's 2: one ratio and I start then I will win or is
1:44:071小时44分钟7秒钟it you understand got it could so I could look at a string that's four
1:44:131小时44分钟13秒钟million digits long or five digits long and I will know ahead of time Jesus it's it's unbelievable so that's I can't even
1:44:211小时44分钟21秒钟possibly guess okay uh and I I could give you the answer or not no okay don't give it number two let people simmer in it you know what I
1:44:291小时44分钟29秒钟would love I would love for Professor newborn if he's still alive to watch this show and say my God I must have trained the student well that he can
1:44:381小时44分钟38秒钟pull this out of his butt 40 years later yeah right yeah so anyway so game two or problem two and imagine now you have to
1:44:471小时44分钟47秒钟go off it's due next Tuesday and I'll try to solve this damn thing that's why I always tell people just study math and computer science whatever you end up becoming it doesn't matter you're never
1:44:551小时44分钟55秒钟going to get as good a training as being a math and computer science undergrad anyways second game you have 12
1:45:041小时45分钟4秒钟coins this one I I think is a bit easier you have 12 coins of which one is
1:45:121小时45分钟12秒钟counterfeit it's counterfeit in that it's either heavier or lighter you don't know okay what is the minimal sequence
1:45:221小时45分钟22秒钟of weighing me that if I had a scale that I can place these on so that I can
1:45:291小时45分钟29秒钟unequivocally identify which is the faulty the counterfeit coin and whether
1:45:361小时45分钟36秒钟it's too heavy or too light is this based on odds so because if it's you have 12 coins yeah so I could say 12 because you
1:45:451小时45分钟45秒钟might [ __ ] it up until the end right no but then I asked you for the minimal number ofs well I could you get lucky on
1:45:521小时45分钟52秒钟the first two and the second one could be heavier and then you do the third one the third one's lighter and you go okay
1:45:591小时45分钟59秒钟so it's the heavier one okay but then that depends on what the outcome of the weighing was right is there what is the
1:46:071小时46分钟7秒钟minimal number of sequence of weighings that will invariably converge to the right counterfeit coin irrespective of
1:46:161小时46分钟16秒钟what happens in the weighing okay and tells me whether it's too heavy or too light it's mind-blowing [ __ ] tell me what it is I
1:46:231小时46分钟23秒钟so I I okay so I I don't remember the sequence right but I if I'm not mistaken I hope I'm not wrong I'm sure Jimmy could pull it off I believe that there
1:46:321小时46分钟32秒钟is a sequence of three steps that could invariably identify which coin is counterfeit and if it's too light or too
1:46:401小时46分钟40秒钟heavy so it's not as simple as just weighing them there's it is as simple as weighing but which ones is it you weigh
1:46:471小时46分钟47秒钟is it you you take any two and you so let's say I take four right and I put two and two and the balance weighs then
1:46:561小时46分钟56秒钟I know that those four could not have been the counterfeit because it didn't tip one way or the other because they're the same weight so in that case by
1:47:051小时47分钟5秒钟taking any random four putting them on I've only eliminated those four right
1:47:121小时47分钟12秒钟but you can do that three times you have 12 just try it yeah but if you do that three times you'll be able to figure it out really quickly if so if now you got
1:47:201小时47分钟20秒钟rid of those four right so I don't remember what sequences so we could try to work it out now but I don't think it's as simple as just us doing it if I
1:47:271小时47分钟27秒钟take another four mhm and I put them out and that comes out as even I get rid of
1:47:351小时47分钟35秒钟those four I've now done two weighings now I still have four right if I take two and
1:47:421小时47分钟42秒钟two now if it does do one or the other I'll I won't know which one it is
1:47:511小时47分钟51秒钟yet and I won't know if it's it's too light or too heavy correct right so that means your strategy of I just take four
1:47:591小时47分钟59秒钟three times will not converge me to the optimal solution of three well so you have to do it in three steps you have to do it in three steps but by the way he
1:48:071小时48分钟7秒钟doesn't tell you and at the assignment what is the number of Step wouldn't you just do six and six then if you no because then you wouldn't have any to
1:48:151小时48分钟15秒钟base it on no if you get six and six you you you're sure you're going to get this unbalanced and you don't know anything
1:48:231小时48分钟23秒钟gave you it just confirmed that there's a counterfactual I mean a counterfeit one so you do four and four if you got
1:48:301小时48分钟30秒钟lucky you could catch it on the second one but you wouldn't know then because you wouldn't know it was it was if you did what you just said that means it's
1:48:391小时48分钟39秒钟dependent on the outcome of that singular time that you did it what I'm saying is irrespective of what you do
1:48:461小时48分钟46秒钟here is the strategy that will always get you what you so I don't remember what the thing God damn it you leave me suspense no but I didn't tell you the other one I didn't tell you the the
1:48:551小时48分钟55秒钟digit one right well the digit one I don't want you to tell people it will blow your I could give a singular hint
1:49:021小时49分钟2秒钟okay that would almost make everybody get it but I don't want to give it because no I'll tell you why because it
1:49:101小时49分钟10秒钟is almost a mystical process I mean we're sitting there we're all you know just give just tell us what it is you
1:49:171小时49分钟17秒钟want me to yeah yeah yeah okay so before I do so let me give you the hint to see if you'll get it and you don't think I'm putting on the spot
1:49:241小时49分钟24秒钟okay what does this is so cool what does any
1:49:321小时49分钟32秒钟string whether it's a million strings or 20 strings always have architecturally
1:49:411小时49分钟41秒钟speaking do you understand what I'm asking yes a number a finite number
1:49:471小时49分钟47秒钟no it always has a it starts with
1:49:551小时49分钟55秒钟m Jamie what are you saying it has a middle a middle okay if you have a do
1:50:051小时50分钟5秒钟you see where I'm going with this okay so meaning if both you and I know the deterministic rule right it doesn't
1:50:141小时50分钟14秒钟matter how big the string is right if I look at the middle of the string I mean I'm getting Goosebump saying it okay if
1:50:221小时50分钟22秒钟if you look at the middle of this like look if this if the middle is 111 just bear with me okay if the middle is 111
1:50:301小时50分钟30秒钟this the string is an odd number okay because whether it's odd number or even right it doesn't matter
1:50:381小时50分钟38秒钟got it if it's an odd number and I start and the middle is one one1 I know
1:50:491小时50分钟49秒钟that I'm going to win why theid has to be a one because one or zero yeah well no because if if the middle is 111 right
1:50:561小时50分钟56秒钟so when we're left with 111 I take a one from this side mhm you take any other one and I'll be left with one and I win
1:51:051小时51分钟5秒钟therefore if we both know the deterministic rule of the game I will always make sure so when you take out
1:51:121小时51分钟12秒钟from this side I will counterbalance by taking out from this side and then you take out from this side I'll counterbalance with this side to make
1:51:201小时51分钟20秒钟sure that we converge to the middle 111 which I know because it's an odd string
1:51:271小时51分钟27秒钟and I started the game I'm always going to get to it got it do you get it yeah and so the entire algorithm is based on
1:51:361小时51分钟36秒钟is the string odd or even that will determine if it's the middle three or middle four and do I
1:51:451小时51分钟45秒钟start or do you start knowing that information the string could be 73 billion digits long
1:51:531小时51分钟53秒钟or it could be six digits long it's a deterministic game I know who will win as long as we both know that rule if we
1:52:001小时52分钟both don't if I know it and you don't then there's asymmetry then I can always make sure to win by but if we both know
1:52:081小时52分钟8秒钟it we don't have to play the game I just look at the middle and I go you're starting or you win we don't need to play Isn't that cool it is cool but I
1:52:161小时52分钟16秒钟wish we hadn't done it because I would have loved to see people's attempts because you learn from how people are thinking how do you understand this
1:52:251小时52分钟25秒钟Quantum Computing this Multiverse explanation all I mean not I don't want to say
1:52:321小时52分钟32秒钟nothing but certainly not enough to offer any insights in this conversation it seems so strange and there's no real
1:52:411小时52分钟41秒钟applications for it yet which is even stranger is that they have this computing power but they're not using it to do things well but here's where it does so I guess maybe I was being too
1:52:501小时52分钟50秒钟humble and when I said I don't I don't know anything about it when so here's a mind-blowing thing MH so you know what prime numbers are yes
1:52:591小时52分钟59秒钟okay it's an incredibly easy property to Define we know how the number line
1:53:081小时53分钟8秒钟operates yet you know that one of the open problems in pure mathematics pure mathematics is basically number Theory it's the purest most theoretical form of
1:53:181小时53分钟18秒钟math which is saying a lot pure mathematicians don't don't have a
1:53:241小时53分钟24秒钟formula that allows them to generate what is the next prime right so usually
1:53:311小时53分钟31秒钟right now what you do is you have these incredible supercomputers and through Brute Force someone comes out with we
1:53:401小时53分钟40秒钟now found the largest prime number ever but it was done through algorithmic
1:53:461小时53分钟46秒钟brutish Force so I can see how a Quantum Computing approach will allow us to
1:53:531小时53分钟53秒钟through Brute Force calculate much further prime numbers that today we don't have the computational power to do
1:54:021小时54分钟2秒钟so I don't know what the application would be but that would be an example of using the the raw computational power of quantum Computing to solve these
1:54:091小时54分钟9秒钟problems what I was getting at was we don't have an application for it where it's being used and it's eventually going to be what I was getting at is
1:54:181小时54分钟18秒钟that we're looking at this astounding computation ability that's baffling and what happens when that gets applied to
1:54:271小时54分钟27秒钟something this is what my point was like my my point is always what happens when that gets applied to sentient AI when it gets applied to some large language
1:54:351小时54分钟35秒钟model that's untethered that's that's where it's really crazy because the the computing power look the one of the big problems
1:54:431小时54分钟43秒钟with artificial intelligence is the incredible need for power right this is why these like Google's doing this AI thing where they want to develop three
1:54:521小时54分钟52秒钟nuclear power plants to power their AI yeah amazing like this is nuts so like what what happens when this insane thing
1:55:021小时55分钟2秒钟that we have developed called artificial intelligence meets this other insane thing that we have developed called Quantum Computing so I I don't know about that
1:55:101小时55分钟10秒钟but what what I can say is that any type of problem that requires massive
1:55:181小时55分钟18秒钟computational power because of the burdensome search you can use that for right right
1:55:261小时55分钟26秒钟so imagine although I don't think you need Quantum Computing for this but say in medical Diagnostics where you use an
1:55:321小时55分钟32秒钟AI system why isn't it that we don't why do we even go to a physician and provide
1:55:391小时55分钟39秒钟him or her with our symptoms when it should be so trivially easy to put that
1:55:461小时55分钟46秒钟into an AI Medical Diagnostic system and it can look up rare case in 1827 in
1:55:541小时55分钟54秒钟Zambia that exactly map on to exactly the symptoms the unique symptoms that I'm facing because I went on a safari in
1:56:011小时56分钟1秒钟Zambia no physician even if he's training infectious diseases has probably seen that case from 1827 Zambia
1:56:081小时56分钟8秒钟so I would expect that in problems that require huge computational power to search through huge engines is where
1:56:171小时56分钟17秒钟Quantum but I don't know anything else yeah well it's it's going to have applications is the point and it's it's right now it's this insane
1:56:251小时56分钟25秒钟technology that is so above and beyond anything that's even imaginable if you just said that to someone 20 years ago you're going to have a computer that if
1:56:331小时56分钟33秒钟you took the whole universe and turned it into a computer it would die of heat death before this thing could figure it out and this thing could do in a couple of minutes unbel you would go that's
1:56:411小时56分钟41秒钟what what are you even saying yeah you go what does the world look like when this thing becomes real the world looks like we're in some sort of Terminator
1:56:471小时56分钟47秒钟movie we're we're in some sort of space movie Star Trek type deal like it's it's not going to be like a normal world but it is a normal world and this technology
1:56:551小时56分钟55秒钟exists my wife just before I came on the show she called me up and she goes oh did you did you see this deep AI stuff with the Chinese I said sweetie I'm
1:57:041小时57分钟4秒钟about to head off to speak to Joe why are you having a deep conversation with me now she goes oh because maybe Joe's gonna bring up something about Ai and
1:57:121小时57分钟12秒钟you might want to know about de so anyway so let me give her do you know anything about this I do I do there there's a lot going on um and what's
1:57:211小时57分钟21秒钟what's bizarre is that China is dumping insane amounts of money I think I think
1:57:271小时57分钟27秒钟the the estimation in the American dollar is a quarter of a trillion dollars uh into their AI program their
1:57:361小时57分钟36秒钟their AI program is uh also allegedly involves a little bit of Espionage so it involves a little bit of uh stealing
1:57:451小时57分钟45秒钟some of the data from open Ai and some of these other places and um one of the things that does happen happen of course
1:57:521小时57分钟52秒钟with these sort of enormous technology breakthroughs is that you're going to have uh certain foreign governments that
1:58:001小时58分钟are trying to infiltrate these research centers yeah they're trying to get access to this information and the speculation is that they have done that
1:58:081小时58分钟8秒钟and that they are more advanced because of it than we are even aware of and that they're dumping untold amounts of resources sort of unchecked the response
1:58:181小时58分钟18秒钟to this is probably what uh the government just recently announced what the Trump Administration the 500 billion
1:58:241小时58分钟24秒钟thing right this is probably in response to that okay that there there's an AI arms race that's going on right now and
1:58:321小时58分钟32秒钟whoever gets to the front of the line first is going to be an insane position of power and in a sense it's similar to the Space Race but this one is probably
1:58:411小时58分钟41秒钟more consequential probably more consequential because essentially when you're dealing with Quantum Computing and Ai and you put the two of those together which they haven't done yet but
1:58:491小时58分钟49秒钟once they do what are what is that that sounds like a god yeah it does it sounds like something that can do things that doesn't even make sense it's going to
1:58:571小时58分钟57秒钟have the kind of understanding of the universe that we would only dream of right now right and it's probably a week away or a month away or a year away or
1:59:051小时59分钟5秒钟whatever it is so and it's going to happen quick in a in a much less sort of grand context yesterday I had this
1:59:141小时59分钟14秒钟morning I was telling you I was having uh breakfast with a colleague from UT Austin I actually also met him yesterday he came over over to the hotel and we
1:59:221小时59分钟22秒钟went out he has a Tesla and he said that over the past month or so I don't
1:59:281小时59分钟28秒钟remember the exact time the AI abilities of the self-driving part of his Tesla
1:59:361小时59分钟36秒钟he's noticed a huge Improvement like a really discreet jump and so we were driving we were going to a coffee shop
1:59:451小时59分钟45秒钟uh and he wasn't he wasn't looking at the road and he wasn't using his hands and the car car was driving oh yeah I
1:59:531小时59分钟53秒钟have one but okay so for you it doesn't seem perceptually and I was looking it's no it's bananas when you use it's bananas the auto driving feature is nuts
2:00:012小时1秒钟it stops at red lights it turns left and right it changes Lanes the whole thing and so this was the first time I I was fully immersed in a self-driving car and
2:00:102小时10秒钟I was telling him hey Richard are are you are you sure that this is okay and he's like oh yeah no it's fine I my children come in and it was like
2:00:172小时17秒钟mind-blowing experience it's mind-blowing yeah and what is that compared to what it's going to be yeah exactly there was uh I bought my first
2:00:252小时25秒钟one I guess uh seven years ago something like that and uh I made a video of me driving on Sunset Boulevard without my
2:00:332小时33秒钟hands I had my hands over the steering wheel I led Zepp and was playing I was like this is so crazy it was driving down the street and have you how much
2:00:422小时42秒钟have you noticed it's much better okay oh yeah much much much much much 500% better it's way better yeah it's like
2:00:492小时49秒钟like I said now what specifically it it makes decisions it's now it changes Lanes to avoid obstructions it it it
2:00:562小时56秒钟puts its blinker on it makes turns it stops at red lights and stop signs it just does everything it drives like a person I mean it still feels weird I
2:01:042小时1分钟4秒钟don't like to let it drive I like to drive okay I like driving right I like I like it's fun it's fun and it's a fun car to drive because it's so
2:01:122小时1分钟12秒钟Preposterous it's like it moves like like a time machine yeah just it just goes places it doesn't make any noise it's real weird so I like driving but
2:01:212小时1分钟21秒钟the autod driving feature that exists now is just the beginning it's going to it's going to get to the point where it's going to be stupid to let people
2:01:292小时1分钟29秒钟drive you know it's funny because uh linking it back to my area research in Psychology decision-making there was a psychologist who has now passed away a
2:01:372小时1分钟37秒钟very famous psychologist named Paul me ml who in the 1950s was already doing studies looking
2:01:462小时1分钟46秒钟at what's called Actuarial versus clinical judgments what does that mean let's suppose I were to tell you that
2:01:542小时1分钟54秒钟when it comes to making decisions for your admissions to University using an Actuarial model meaning putting in all
2:02:032小时2分钟3秒钟of your admissions data and allowing a model to decide yes or no is a much
2:02:102小时2分钟10秒钟better uh mechanism than to allow humans to make that choice because humans can be hungry at 11:45 and they're pissed
2:02:192小时2分钟19秒钟off because their blood sugar is low and if they're depending on whether the blood sugar is low or not they may make a different decision on the exact same
2:02:272小时2分钟27秒钟file so that he tried to argue that Actuarial decisions for certain structured decisions will end up having
2:02:352小时2分钟35秒钟much better fairer outcomes for University applicants and people were still reticent to allow the machine to
2:02:442小时2分钟44秒钟make decisions they wanted to be in the hands of humans and so I think when the reason I thought of this example is because when you said I don't like the
2:02:532小时2分钟53秒钟ma the machine to be driving I want to be in control what that to me suggests is that no matter how much Actuarial
2:03:012小时3分钟1秒钟evidence you might provide to people telling them on average you're much less likely to get into an accident if the
2:03:092小时3分钟9秒钟self-driving car drives most people are going to have the bias of saying no I can't relinquish control do do you agree
2:03:172小时3分钟17秒钟with that yeah I think there's that's definitely a factor um also you wonder if the car is paying attention to things
2:03:252小时3分钟25秒钟that you can see but it can't see right so what I like to look at when I'm driving one of the reasons why I like driving my truck I have a raptor and
2:03:322小时3分钟32秒钟it's it's above the rest of the traffic so I could see people doing stupid things way up ahead so I could see someone slamming on their brakes and I know all these other people are going to
2:03:412小时3分钟41秒钟have to slam on their brakes too cuz somebody just cut in front of that guy and stopped dead I can change lanes right the car is not going to know that it's not going to see that it's not
2:03:482小时3分钟48秒钟going to be paying attention because it's not high enough right well the it's not paying attention to anything other than the car in front of it or the car to the right and to the left it's not
2:03:562小时3分钟56秒钟looking at cars like way down the road I'm looking at things like hundreds of yards ahead of me but couldn't a couple of code lines fix what you just said it
2:04:042小时4分钟4秒钟might not be able to see it okay it does it's not going to see it like I see it it would have to have like sensors up where my eyeballs are okay right and especially like I'll move to the left
2:04:122小时4分钟12秒钟lane a little bit to see what's going on over there and I'll move back you know I'll move slightly to the left so that I could see past this line when you're
2:04:212小时4分钟21秒钟taking into account other people's stupidity the thing is once we get to a point where automated cars are ubiquitous then the argument for
2:04:302小时4分钟30秒钟self-driving or driving yourself rather is going to be kind of shitty because it's going to be so much better than
2:04:372小时4分钟37秒钟driving right like you're it's so much safer if you're not going to worry about ever being distracted by your phone you're not going to ever worry about you
2:04:452小时4分钟45秒钟know dropping your drink in your lap and changing lanes and colliding with someone you're not going to think about all those things cuz the car is going to be doing everything
2:04:522小时4分钟52秒钟and as good as it is now it's way better than it used to be and it's going to be way better in a few years from now right it's like I do love driving though I
2:05:002小时5分钟love the pleasure of driving a car it's not that I want to be in control and I'm we I enjoy it it's like a ride when I
2:05:072小时5分钟7秒钟was a little kid I remember thinking boy one day I'm going to be able to drive a car that's like going to Disneyland every day cuz Disneyland you know you're on a ride like you know there some of
2:05:162小时5分钟16秒钟these little race car rides in Disneyland they're silly you compared to a car so you're you're on a ride well I remember uh in
2:05:242小时5分钟24秒钟1983 I had gone to help my brother move he had he had moved to Toronto for a year and then he ended up moving to Southern California and I was going with
2:05:332小时5分钟33秒钟him to help him move and he took a U-Haul truck and I took his den I think it was called an RX7 Mazda one of those
2:05:402小时5分钟40秒钟do you remember those oh yeah okay and it had the cruise control on it which was the earliest manifestation so I did
2:05:502小时5分钟50秒钟it a bit on the highway cuz we have to drive from Montreal to Toronto yeah you just lay back but I didn't I I wanted to
2:05:572小时5分钟57秒钟be in control of I didn't like being constrained by it's on 110 kilm right I want to be able to adjust right and so I
2:06:052小时6分钟5秒钟played with it for about 50 kilometers and then I turned it off and I never used it again well now they have ones that judge the speed based on the
2:06:132小时6分钟13秒钟distance between the car in front of you and you can change it so it's like radar laser I think it uses laser so the laser
2:06:212小时6分钟21秒钟determines how far ahead of you the car is and slows down so that you have an appropriate amount of stopping distance
2:06:282小时6分钟28秒钟right they pretty incredible now do you do you do you foresee have you heard of those U kind of uh flying taxis that
2:06:372小时6分钟37秒钟they're thinking is is this kind of uh Jefferson stuff or is I think once we get really good at automating cars why
2:06:452小时6分钟45秒钟wouldn't you have automated flying vehicles the real concern with flying vehicles is people getting in accidents in the sky falling on people's houses
2:06:532小时6分钟53秒钟which would happen I mean think about how Street takeovers where people drive like [ __ ] in the street imagine that happening in the sky you're walking your dog and you're dead yeah you're walk in
2:07:022小时7分钟2秒钟your dog and boom a car falls on you that could happen so is that an intractable problem that ends the project right there or can you
2:07:102小时7分钟10秒钟automation automation changes all that so with automation you have a 3D perspective of everything around it everything around it has a 3D
2:07:182小时7分钟18秒钟perspective of everything around it and they're all moving in sync so they all share information you're going to know where one is at every time but you're
2:07:272小时7分钟27秒钟not going to be in control you not you can't just dive bomb onto your ex-girlfriend's house right you know [ __ ] you [ __ ] I'm G to die you can't
2:07:342小时7分钟34秒钟you know it's like the worry about humans is human error or you know doing it on purpose which which is an error but you know as someone who used to code
2:07:432小时7分钟43秒钟in my computer science days sometimes you forget the semicolon and the syntax of the programming language you do but it's going to be coded by AI it won't be coded by people that's true there's
2:07:522小时7分钟52秒钟already like people that are coding right now will tell you don't go to school for coding cuz it's a great thing to learn learn to code is now obsolete
2:08:012小时8分钟1秒钟yeah isn't that funny like learn to code what was the learn to code thing would get you in trouble when PE because someone had said it in regards to people
2:08:092小时8分钟9秒钟losing menial jobs was like I think in the coal industry that you're going to have to learn to code which is such a crazy
2:08:162小时8分钟16秒钟thing to say but it became a thing where it would get you kicked off of Twitter that's how suppressed people don't understand how suppressive Twitter was
2:08:232小时8分钟23秒钟you get in trouble for writing learn to code like you couldn't mock people by saying that ridiculous thing that someone had said about coal miners so
2:08:312小时8分钟31秒钟can I take credit for having uh reintroduced the word into the Lexicon did you I think you are looking at the
2:08:402小时8分钟40秒钟one who made the use of the word [ __ ] cool again let me listen no no I'm not going
2:08:502小时8分钟50秒钟to never let it go I never let it go I ret tter yeah but everybody did Twitter
2:08:562小时8分钟56秒钟retards in in quiet circles has always existed it's like a a smoldering Ember that re because now there's a skit that
2:09:042小时9分钟4秒钟I do whenever I see somebody posting something they are two levels I retweet it and then I go are you [ __ ] or if
2:09:122小时9分钟12秒钟I'm really pissed are you [ __ ] [ __ ] and so now people are creating like memes t-shirts with me and are you
2:09:192小时9分钟19秒钟[ __ ] some people have said my next book after my current one suicidal empathy will be are you are you [ __ ]
2:09:262小时9分钟26秒钟so I feel as though give me a bit of credit I don't give you any credit it's been it's been going around it's never died in comedian circles we've we've
2:09:352小时9分钟35秒钟kept it alive forever it's just too good of a word and also it doesn't have anything to do with Down Syndrome it has to do with a specific way of thinking and just because some people you know oh
2:09:442小时9分钟44秒钟you're an ableist that's not what it's about yeah I would never use that term if I was talking about someone who had Down syndrome that's not you use it you
2:09:522小时9分钟52秒钟use it when you're talking about someone who thinks the World is Flat right comedy special yeah instead of saying extremity yeah you yeah there's a time
2:10:002小时10分钟and a place for certain words that's why they exist you don't eliminate words that make the world a better place are there any words that you've never used
2:10:082小时10分钟8秒钟and I've got one go no that you've never used like I've never I mean obviously there's a million words in the Lexicon that I haven't used just because I mean
2:10:162小时10分钟16秒钟words that we know that we find too objectionable to use can you guess what mine would be what is it it's the
2:10:232小时10分钟23秒钟CW I've never used it and I don't like you hang out in England more I know that's I was going to say they throw that around like a beach ball at a con
2:10:312小时10分钟31秒钟you're it's m and yeah Australia he's a good [ __ ] exactly I don't like it I get it do you do you feel it do do you see
2:10:402小时10分钟40秒钟there's a lot of power in that word but the the less you use it the more power it has it's like the old Lenny Bruce bit
2:10:462小时10分钟46秒钟yeah yeah um I think that is going to be a thing of the past too I think technology is going to bring us to a
2:10:532小时10分钟53秒钟point where we're going to be able to telepathically exchange ideas and it's going to be thought-based it's not going to be based on language and the the you
2:11:032小时11分钟3秒钟know the problem with language of course you have objectable words words that are used out of context words that you see in print you're lacking the sarcastic
2:11:112小时11分钟11秒钟tone that the person said it in so you read it you could reinterpret it as being a serious statement there's a lot of weird stuff with language because
2:11:192小时11分钟19秒钟what we're really trying to do is communicate yeah it's a crude form of communication that only exists because telepathy is not good you feel that
2:11:282小时11分钟28秒钟we're going to one day be able to just our conversation will just be we're looking at each other in the eyes yeah yeah I think so what would be the M
2:11:362小时11分钟36秒钟material means by which that gets instantiated how would we do that well I think initially it' be technology but what I think is it's an emerging aspect
2:11:452小时11分钟45秒钟of human consciousness anyway right I think we're getting better at it I think that ironically the thing that keeps us from it is technology because what is
2:11:542小时11分钟54秒钟the the worst way to communicate with someone where you're not exactly sure what they're saying is text right like people misinterpret things in text
2:12:012小时12分钟1秒钟messages all the time where one person is joking and the other person takes them seriously or one person doesn't understand that this person doesn't know about something else and they wrote
2:12:092小时12分钟9秒钟something so there is and I may have mentioned this before on the show I can't remember there is something to what you're saying not quite
2:12:172小时12分钟17秒钟telepathically but so you know brain Imaging fmri right so in fmri I I put you
2:12:242小时12分钟24秒钟through the the machine and I'm able to look at which areas of your brain are getting more activated either through
2:12:312小时12分钟31秒钟blood flow or oxygenation or whatever right so if I'm studying the psychology of fear-based appeals or advertising
2:12:392小时12分钟39秒钟well I expect your amydala to light up more because that's an emotional Center where you expect fear to be processed right got it so there is some
2:12:472小时12分钟47秒钟researchers I think out of UCLA that took I I can't remember if it's like a sentence so let's say eight different
2:12:552小时12分钟55秒钟sentences I'm getting the methodology wrong but the the general idea is valid and based on the activation pattern that
2:13:042小时13分钟4秒钟they see they're able to tell you which sentence would have been said by looking at the brain image you understand what
2:13:132小时13分钟13秒钟I'm saying yeah because each of those enunciated sentences or things that I thought about
2:13:212小时13分钟21秒钟will necessitate a different invoking of a particular region in my brain right and therefore
2:13:292小时13分钟29秒钟so I can't be to the point where I'm able to read your mind in the way that if you and I were having a telepathic
2:13:362小时13分钟36秒钟conversation would happen but at least I'm able to know if you just thought about something fearful or you thought
2:13:432小时13分钟43秒钟about a house or and so now they're already doing that so I think the analogy would be like this is the first
2:13:492小时13分钟49秒钟grunt that ient man right developed to recognize particular things and to point out things before they developed a
2:13:582小时13分钟58秒钟written language that was eloquent like Thomas Jefferson right yes like as it advances yeah exactly so I I so I've
2:14:062小时14分钟6秒钟written two papers I mean academic papers on um the brain Imaging Paradigm and I used a term that I first learned
2:14:152小时14分钟15秒钟of from my doctoral Professor I in I did one of my minors in my PhD was studies studies of the brain and his name is
2:14:232小时14分钟23秒钟Frank Kyle he's now a professor at Yale University uh he called it the illusion
2:14:302小时14分钟30秒钟of explanatory profundity he was applying it to something else but I apply it to brain Imaging let me explain what I mean by that there are studies
2:14:382小时14分钟38秒钟that show that if you take the exact same paper and in one version you actually put an image of a brain Imaging
2:14:472小时14分钟47秒钟thing and in the other version of the paper you don't do that and and you ask people to judge what it's the exact same paper right but you put the one with the
2:14:562小时14分钟56秒钟image people go o this one is more scientific right right of course packaging matters because it just
2:15:042小时15分钟4秒钟showing the brain which looks cool in sciencey with all kinds of activation pattern is sciencey right this other
2:15:112小时15分钟11秒钟paper which is exactly the same paper doesn't have it it's not as sciencey so hence illusion of explanatory profundity you you're thinking that you're
2:15:202小时15分钟20秒钟explaining something very profound but it really is you don't know what the hell you're talking about so I think brain Imaging so far has been very
2:15:292小时15分钟29秒钟powerful as a diagnostic tool because you could see things in Vivo you could actually see certain things that before you had to do an invasive surgery to see
2:15:382小时15分钟38秒钟but to be able to fully like now there are neuromarketing firms that tell you that sell you based on the activation
2:15:472小时15分钟47秒钟patterns of your consumers we can help you design better marketing campaigns [ __ ] right so they're
2:15:542小时15分钟54秒钟overexaggerating the capabilities this is a this is a problem when Lites sort of interpret what science is capable of
2:16:032小时16分钟3秒钟and then try it based on that exactly do you know the story of uh I think it was in India there was a woman who was
2:16:102小时16分钟10秒钟convicted of murder because through fmri functional magnetic residence imagery they uh she had a functional me she had
2:16:192小时16分钟19秒钟a functional memory of the crime somehow or another and the problem with I talked to neuroscientists about that and they said the problem is like she could have
2:16:272小时16分钟27秒钟had that memory based on the evidence that was given to her when she was being tried you would imagine that that would have a profound effect if someone told
2:16:352小时16分钟35秒钟you that you're being tried for murder and they showed you photos of the crime scene you might develop a functional memory of this crime scene we trying to think like who the [ __ ] did this why am
2:16:442小时16分钟44秒钟I being blamed it doesn't and we don't really have the capability of it another one is there was these Italian
2:16:512小时16分钟51秒钟scientists that were actually tried and convicted uh because they were liable of not telling people about an earthquake
2:16:592小时16分钟59秒钟that took place because the people that were trying them did not understand that the science involved in predicting
2:17:062小时17分钟6秒钟earthquakes is not exact it's not it's not like I know an earthquake is going to happen Tuesday at noon or I know an earthquake is definitely even going to
2:17:142小时17分钟14秒钟happen you don't know it's just and because the fact that these people who didn't understand the science were trying them they wanted to pretend that
2:17:232小时17分钟23秒钟these people were responsible for not alerting all these and they they were try I think they tried them for manslaughter and they were convicted and
2:17:302小时17分钟30秒钟I think they won on appeal wow yeah see if you can find that story interesting it's a crazy story because actual people who are geologists are like what the
2:17:372小时17分钟37秒钟[ __ ] are you doing yeah seven-year legal Saga ends as Italian official is cleared of manslaughter and earthquake trial verdict files conviction of Deputy for
2:17:462小时17分钟46秒钟advice given ahead of laquila earthquake wow yeah crazy crazy CU you have a bunch
2:17:542小时17分钟54秒钟of [ __ ] that say you should have known we're going to take you to court and like hey you [ __ ] idiot you don't even know how this technology works and they don't have to know well even on a
2:18:032小时18分钟3秒钟much more basic level eyewitness testimony has been shown to be unbelievably unreliable unbelievably
2:18:112小时18分钟11秒钟unreliable the pioneer of that research I'm I I give so many shout outs to people who become famous after hearing
2:18:182小时18分钟18秒钟about me on the show Elizabeth lus who's a venerable psychologist at
2:18:252小时18分钟25秒钟University of California Irvine where I was for a few years uh she is the Pioneer of having studied the inaccuracy
2:18:342小时18分钟34秒钟of eyewitness testimony and once you see her research you shudder to think how
2:18:422小时18分钟42秒钟many people have gone to the gas chamber uh you know because someone said of course I I absolutely saw him it was
2:18:492小时18分钟49秒钟him oh well yeah I mean I've worked with Josh Dubin multiple times on the show to help people get out of jail this is Innocence Project he was with the
2:18:572小时18分钟57秒钟Innocence Project and now he does his thing with Ike P Pearl mutter and he's very involved in helping these people
2:19:052小时19分钟5秒钟that have and there's a lot of them that are in jail either through eyewitness ter testimony or corrupt prosecutors or
2:19:132小时19分钟13秒钟you know evidence was withheld or you know there's there's a ton of those cases are you a consumer of all the
2:19:222小时19分钟22秒钟crime shows no not not at all no I don't why cuz it's bad vibes oh okay I don't I don't need that in my life I'm aware of
2:19:302小时19分钟30秒钟it enough I mean I've paid attention to enough of them I've read enough books I've I've read enough books on serial killers I've I've get I get it you know
2:19:392小时19分钟39秒钟what I'm as a psychologist what interests me is and you see it almost in every show I I like I don't know if you
2:19:462小时19分钟46秒钟know the show it's called interrogation raw where the the whole our series is there's a case and now they bring in the
2:19:552小时19分钟55秒钟guy and they're actually filming interrogation that's happening and invariably in almost every case that
2:20:022小时20分钟2秒钟I've watched it's the same Dynamic the guy who eventually is convicted always
2:20:092小时20分钟9秒钟thinks that he's smarter than these hick hillbilly cops that don't know anything
2:20:162小时20分钟16秒钟and seeing how the cops play them how they really are amazing psychologists
2:20:232小时20分钟23秒钟themselves to know how good cop bad cop the whole thing and so I love watching that interaction because the guy comes
2:20:302小时20分钟30秒钟in and does his whole song and dance and he truly because he's gotten away with it for much of his life and then you
2:20:372小时20分钟37秒钟know I'm just a Shuck's a stupid country boy who doesn't know what I'm talking about we talked about this the other day too that I think there's something going
2:20:442小时20分钟44秒钟on as well that people that lie all the time they don't recognize that people can tell that they're lying because
2:20:512小时20分钟51秒钟they're not good at reading lying they lie all the time so they're not good at reading people because they live in this [ __ ] world of blinders where they're
2:20:592小时20分钟59秒钟just trying to be charismatic and push forth some fake story like I can't like I I watched this one where this woman um
2:21:072小时21分钟7秒钟hired uh an undercover police officer to kill her husband I know this case and she goes into histrionics yes and they
2:21:142小时21分钟14秒钟all know that she did it they're allware ma'am your husband was oh I can't believe and she hugs the officer it's
2:21:202小时21分钟20秒钟like wow this is crazy to watch how how uh rewarding must it be to be that cop oh my God it's probably hilarious you're
2:21:292小时21分钟29秒钟like this crazy [ __ ] yeah yeah especially fortunately if you're dealing with a murder that didn't actually take place here's an incredible story about
2:21:382小时21分钟38秒钟serendipity and that relates to serial killers so in 1989 I'm then with a girlfriend we're going to the Sho region
2:21:472小时21分钟47秒钟which is in Northern Quebec it's about 5 6 hours North of Montreal by car where it's very famous because the beluga
2:21:552小时21分钟55秒钟whales come there to me the the white St Lawrence whales I don't know if you know them but they're these beautiful very rare whales they're all white oh wow and
2:22:022小时22分钟2秒钟so we had gone up there and we're we end up at this Inn uh in the middle of you know Quebec Countryside and I walk in
2:22:112小时22分钟11秒钟there there's this tall American Greeting me I'm I'm surprised like speak English he he's speaking English to me
2:22:192小时22分钟19秒钟and I so I put a book that's crazy enough up there right absolutely and so I have a book with me that I'm reading
2:22:272小时22分钟27秒钟at the time I was thinking you know maybe I'll go into maybe forensic psychiatry which would mean I would go
2:22:352小时22分钟35秒钟to med school or I'd go into forensic psychology because I was very interested in criminology but then I decided I think rightly so that it's too dark for
2:22:422小时22分钟42秒钟me also as a career yeah and so I was reading a book titled alone with the devil which you could probably pull it
2:22:492小时22分钟49秒钟off pull it up which is a book that was written by a forensic psychiatrist out of LA
2:22:572小时22分钟57秒钟County system where he was the forensic psychiatrist who would interview many of the most famous serial killers that were
2:23:062小时23分钟6秒钟running through LA County back then the the Angelo Bueno the hill stride stranglers the the the the nightstalker
2:23:142小时23分钟14秒钟the all those insane ones in Southern California and so hence alone with the devil meaning him sitting with yeah okay
2:23:212小时23分钟21秒钟and as I put the book down as I'm he's this is the the guy who's checking me into this uh kind of bed and breakfast
2:23:282小时23分钟28秒钟place uh he looks at it and he goes oh I know I know the author and I'm thinking how does this american guy who's in
2:23:362小时23分钟36秒钟Northern Quebec know this author who's a forensic psychiatrist in in La he goes
2:23:422小时23分钟42秒钟oh I used to be a public defender in the LA County system then he met a woman who was a quebecer and then they moved there
2:23:502小时23分钟50秒钟together and uh I I used to work with this psychiatrist and as we started talking he goes all I could tell you so this is 1989 so I'm like a 23 24 year
2:23:592小时23分钟59秒钟old guy with long hair and he goes all I and I was telling him that I have a brother who's in Southern California so I always go see him and he goes all I
2:24:072小时24分钟7秒钟can tell you is don't ever ever do something that gets you to go to LA County jail for even a night because if
2:24:172小时24分钟17秒钟you piss off the cops they'll throw you in there and they just scream fresh fish out of water and then the guys will have
2:24:252小时24分钟25秒钟their way with you and so I made sure to never drink and drive in LA county because I don't think I would have losted 14 seconds so anyways let's hold
2:24:332小时24分钟33秒钟on let me okay fast forward to 2013 I am in lck Texas I've been invited
2:24:432小时24分钟43秒钟to speak at the life sciences and politics conference I'm the plenary speaker and the political scientists who invited me there takes me out for a
2:24:512小时24分钟51秒钟Texan barbecue and as we're chatting he goes you know I know you're from Quebec you
2:24:572小时24分钟57秒钟know my my father lives in uh in Quebec I said your father you're you're okay
2:25:052小时25分钟5秒钟can I just take a guess who your father might be and you and I I said was your
2:25:112小时25分钟11秒钟dad a public defender in the LA County system he looks at me as though I'm like an
2:25:182小时25分钟18秒钟oracle he goes yes that's my dad so imagine I meet a guy in 1989 based on this book and he knows
2:25:272小时25分钟27秒钟that guy fast forward many many years later I meet his son who just tells me oh my dad lives in Quebec I take a shot
2:25:362小时25分钟36秒钟at throwing and it was that guy that I met in 1989 how is that for the metaphysics of Life nut that's nuts it's
2:25:432小时25分钟43秒钟a small world that's that's weird that's weird there's there's certain things that are like okay what are we dealing
2:25:492小时25分钟49秒钟with here yeah like is this is this a simulation like what is this right have you seen the the thing about the book
2:25:572小时25分钟57秒钟from 1950 theory that talks about Elon wanting to go to Mars like a Warner Von braa no have you seen this where's my
2:26:042小时26分钟4秒钟phone saw yeah Elon tweeted it you could find it see like there's certain things where you go come on the just even the
2:26:132小时26分钟13秒钟name Elon and elon's going to take us to Mars like sorry you mean in in there's a character so here it is this is in a
2:26:212小时26分钟21秒钟warneron bron book so Elon is the elected leader of the Martian government serving a five-year term Elon and their cabin administrator have
2:26:292小时26分钟29秒钟enacted have laws enacted by two houses of Parliament Elon in Project Mars a technical tale is the name of the
2:26:372小时26分钟37秒钟Martian leader and the connection between the character and Elon Musk led to speculation about Warner Von Bron's influence on musk space exploration okay
2:26:462小时26分钟46秒钟so this is a book from I think it's 1953 okay you ready right is that when you wrote it Jamie hold on 4 49 see if you
2:26:532小时26分钟53秒钟can find the um the the tweet that elon's tweet cuz elon's tweet is hilarious cuz like how's this possible cuz he's like like this doesn't even
2:27:002小时27分钟make sense this is so crazy I do have one non sexy explanation that can explain this okay one of his parents was
2:27:092小时27分钟9秒钟a huge fan of that author read that book and in honor of that character actually
2:27:172小时27分钟17秒钟called Elon Musk Elon sure that's great great but what are the odds that guy's going to develop Rockets that's true what are the odds that your little baby
2:27:262小时27分钟26秒钟boy who you're naming when he was one day old is going to develop 1953 book Mars project by Warner Bon Bron says the
2:27:342小时27分钟34秒钟leader of Mars Shall be Called Elon someone pulled the original gernan manuscript out of the archives debunk this myth only to confirm that Von Bron
2:27:412小时27分钟41秒钟did indeed predict he'd be called Elon and Elon writes how can this be real it's it's kind of crazy it's kind of crazy because the guys literally
2:27:492小时27分钟49秒钟obsessed with Mars and has created rockets that you can catch rockets that have you have you
2:27:562小时27分钟56秒钟seen when Trump explains that yeah it's hilarious so amazing it's amazing what he can do with these Rockets it's it's
2:28:042小时28分钟4秒钟nuts man we're we're living in a very very strange time what is this this is elon's Dad says elon's father named him after reading the book it's common
2:28:122小时28分钟12秒钟knowled amazing he after read okay so amazing so I got that part still what are the other still what are the odds
2:28:212小时28分钟21秒钟there's 8 billion people on this [ __ ] planet what are the odds that your kid who you named Elon because you read a
2:28:292小时28分钟29秒钟book becomes the guy and Elon didn't even know about it wow what about the thing with Baron Trump have you heard
2:28:362小时28分钟36秒钟that that's nuts too wild find that one that one's nuts too that one's completely bizarre Baron the young kid
2:28:432小时28分钟43秒钟yeah what is it well he'll pull it up I don't want to [ __ ] it up but there there's a few of those that make you wonder where like
2:28:502小时28分钟50秒钟is this a simulation is this real I feel like there's aspects of it that are real trying to find the year there's a series of books from like I think it's the late
2:28:582小时28分钟58秒钟1800s or something yeah about yeah it says 1900 here but it's like a a person named Baron Trump goes on these
2:29:062小时29分钟6秒钟Adventures gets a like a guy from Manhattan to be his like guide it's it's
2:29:132小时29分钟13秒钟very strange and very similar to like what see if you can find what the synopsis like what what connects it bar
2:29:202小时29分钟20秒钟trump it seems real weird it's almost like like the telepathy thing like someone in the past says I think something's going to happen one day I
2:29:292小时29分钟29秒钟just get this feeling this Elon [ __ ] you know what I mean like there's some I think there's some weird things about the potential Futures and
2:29:372小时29分钟37秒钟that might be also what we're seeing with this alien stuff I think this alien stuff might be the future have you how many times have you had Elon on the show oh a bunch of times the book was called
2:29:452小时29分钟45秒钟the last president oh ad blocker the last president that's kind of crazy because if the [ __ ]
2:29:542小时29分钟54秒钟hits the fan in the aliens land he is the last president n in 1889 novel called Baron Trump's marvelous underground Journey was written by ingel
2:30:032小时30分钟3秒钟Saul Lockwood he would go on to write another book called the last president in 1900 mystery which involves a trump family Nicola Tesla time travel and dark
2:30:122小时30分钟12秒钟Forces wow in a castle called Castle Trump so he's a follows the adventures of a young aristocat Aristocrat named Baron Trump
2:30:212小时30分钟21秒钟living in a castle named Castle Trump which is [ __ ] crazy the characters describ as intelligent curious and somewhat arrogant Guided by his mentor
2:30:302小时30分钟30秒钟Dawn his mentor Dawn Baron embarks on a Fantastical Journeys including one to discover a
2:30:372小时30分钟37秒钟magical portal in Russia uhoh Putin connections confirm
2:30:442小时30分钟44秒钟Jesus Christ it's like is this [ __ ] is life [ __ ] is life real wow I
2:30:512小时30分钟51秒钟think life's mostly real but you know this is the problem with the whole idea of simulation theory is that if uh if
2:30:592小时30分钟59秒钟it's true if there is a simulation and the simulation if we we develop technology where the simulation becomes IND discernable from reality itself how
2:31:072小时31分钟7秒钟will we know maybe we'll know from goofy Clues like that like like silly coating Easter eggs that God leaves behind I
2:31:152小时31分钟15秒钟would love to know what was the mechanism by which for each of those stories that that you came up with who came up with like is is was it just a
2:31:232小时31分钟23秒钟fan of one of those books who said wait a minute and right well the weird one is why is wer Von Bron writing fiction when
2:31:302小时31分钟30秒钟he's a [ __ ] Nazi why in Nazi running NASA and before that he was writing fiction like what How's he have time how's he have time to write fiction when
2:31:392小时31分钟39秒钟this guy's in the middle of developing rockets for the Germans yeah wow amazing amazing story so what what
2:31:452小时31分钟45秒钟how what are some of the things that you know you take away when you interact with Elon because I've I've gotten I've been fortunate enough to get to know him a bit better now and so on and I'm just
2:31:542小时31分钟54秒钟amazed by what what an amazing guy he is what what are some of you your views well he's just a fascinating human being like if we didn't live in a time of Elon
2:32:022小时32分钟2秒钟Musk and you were studying him in history you'd be like Jesus Christ what was that guy like that guy must have been insane this guy's running five
2:32:102小时32分钟10秒钟different companies simultaneously unb trying to develop Department of government efficiency at the same time
2:32:172小时32分钟17秒钟and like he's a very unique human being exists once every who knows how many generations and and to if and to think
2:32:262小时32分钟26秒钟that there are so like when this Nazi salute thing came out and of course you know I I debunked it and there's some
2:32:332小时32分钟33秒钟way to it because I happen to be Jewish and I know him but do you really need me to come out with my impr premature to
2:32:412小时32分钟41秒钟say no no no people don't really believe he made a Nazi salute they want to believe so they say they believe because you can get him on that and he's on the
2:32:482小时32分钟48秒钟defensive it's an an attack Vector okay so you don't you don't you don't think anybody who think he's a [ __ ] Nazi he literally wears a thing around his neck
2:32:552小时32分钟55秒钟that says bring them all home yeah about the hostages or did you see when he said I think I don't know if it was after Ben Shapiro when he went with him to to I
2:33:042小时33分钟4秒钟think it was aitz or something and he said I am Jewish yes yeah he's you know he's a
2:33:132小时33分钟13秒钟fascinating human being and all fascinating human beings especially all people that are in incredible positions of power and wealth which is what he is is you're going to get attacked and you
2:33:212小时33分钟21秒钟get attacked by a lot of bad faith arguments and this is one of them well the last time I was in uh in
2:33:292小时33分钟29秒钟Austin you know we we had we had met up in person and uh but it was delayed our meeting because he ended up having to go
2:33:372小时33分钟37秒钟to all sorts of depositions and so he would be texting me and saying oh I'm in this I'm in this hellish deposition and then later when we met he kind of told
2:33:462小时33分钟46秒钟me a bit about it I mean I won't share some of the stuff but I'm thinking you know if at my level I get people coming
2:33:532小时33分钟53秒钟after me mhm it's unimaginable to even think at what level right for me it's a
2:34:012小时34分钟1秒钟troll coming after me or an annoying academic or an islamist who sends me a death threat okay fine but I mean he's getting government's attacking him he's
2:34:102小时34分钟10秒钟getting so it's but yet he just keeps Trucking along it's unbelievable well I mean it really helps have $400
2:34:172小时34分钟17秒钟billion that does help that helps a lot but you know if he didn't buy Twitter I think the world would be a a far more
2:34:242小时34分钟24秒钟[ __ ] up place right now I think we would be far more confused far less free to express ourselves and the narrative the cultural narrative shifted because
2:34:332小时34分钟33秒钟of people's ability to freely Express themselves now on social media in front of everybody where you you just didn't have that before well I I I mean
2:34:412小时34分钟41秒钟literally within few days of it being maybe even the same day of it being announced that he was buying it I had
2:34:482小时34分钟48秒钟put out a clip on my channel where I said of all things that Elon Musk has ever done or will ever do none will ever
2:34:582小时34分钟58秒钟count as much as him having bought Twitter if it if it didn't happen you would have a complete cult likee
2:35:072小时35分钟7秒钟takeover of all public discourse all public discourse would be controlled by
2:35:142小时35分钟14秒钟this ridiculous ideology this woke ideology this what you call mind virus yeah and that mind virus would have been
2:35:232小时35分钟23秒钟used by corporations and it has been and used by government and it has been used in order
2:35:312小时35分钟31秒钟to enact more control over its citizens under the guise of protecting marginalized people and protecting ideas
2:35:392小时35分钟39秒钟it seems like they're doing the right thing and it seems like opposing that is doing the wrong thing but it's just a wolf and sheep's clothing that's all it
2:35:472小时35分钟47秒钟is it's just control it's it's just the the government was they don't give a
2:35:522小时35分钟52秒钟[ __ ] about Dei all they give a [ __ ]
2:35:542小时35分钟54秒钟about is votes and power and control and if they can use Dei to get their way and if they can use whatever green energy
2:36:032小时36分钟3秒钟[ __ ] they're pushing whatever they're doing they're not doing it because they're trying to save you that's nonsense if you look at it from
2:36:092小时36分钟9秒钟the perspective of this is to gain more power more influence and make more money then you'll see things more clearly so
2:36:182小时36分钟18秒钟I've I've been asked by in on many in many different contexts do you think that this is it this is the end of all the parasitic stuff and I keep imploring
2:36:272小时36分钟27秒钟people to not be complacent and that be complacent exactly because sure Donald Trump is a huge door stop to all the
2:36:352小时36分钟35秒钟insanity but here's the analogy I like to draw so you know how there's the evolution of the Super Bug that comes about because of the
2:36:432小时36分钟43秒钟misapplication of the antibiotic regiment so what happens basically I mean it literally is a natural
2:36:502小时36分钟50秒钟right so yeah so because I'm supposed to take the antibiotics for 5 days but I only take it for two days and I
2:36:582小时36分钟58秒钟immediately feel a lot better I sto taking it but what that has created is that the weak bacteria have died off
2:37:072小时37分钟7秒钟whereas the ones that have survived until that point have only become stronger and through the misapplication
2:37:142小时37分钟14秒钟of the prescription for antibiotics I then contribute to the evolution of the superbug so I argue so I'm analogizing now with
2:37:222小时37分钟22秒钟the w m virus it's if you don't completely do the antibiotic regiment fully which in
2:37:312小时37分钟31秒钟this case means eradicating all those parasitic ideas everywhere right because it took 50 to 100 years for those bad
2:37:402小时37分钟40秒钟ideas to originally be spawned and flourish in the University ecosystem right so you're not going to get rid of them in a four-year term with Donald
2:37:482小时37分钟48秒钟Trump and we never see them again so it has to be a continuous cultural War to eradicate those now you'd like to think
2:37:572小时37分钟57秒钟that it won't take 50 to 100 years to eradicate them but it's not going to start and end with Trump I'm thinking you agree with that yes no I definitely
2:38:042小时38分钟4秒钟do agree with that and I think that it's also you have to take into consideration although Trump won and Trump is controlling the cabinet and all these different people going to be able to do
2:38:122小时38分钟12秒钟his agenda he's still have almost half the country that didn't vote for him so and all and people are always tribal and so they're going to be opposed to
2:38:202小时38分钟20秒钟everything even the good things that he's doing they're going to find fault in it did you see the CBS uh interview with JD Vance Just One Clip [ __ ]
2:38:282小时38分钟28秒钟amazing oh so I should watch the whole thing oh my God it's a master class he just yeah he is he is impressive so good he is really good you have has he been
2:38:362小时38分钟36秒钟on your show yeah he's great that thank God for that guy he he's so good at dismantling those Dopey people yeah and
2:38:442小时38分钟44秒钟just breaking down like she was like this is a country built on immigrants he's like yes that doesn't mean that 240 years later we have to have the dumbest
2:38:512小时38分钟51秒钟immigration policy possible well and so actually in my forthcoming book that I'm trying to wrap up now suicidal empathy I
2:38:592小时38分钟59秒钟have a section where I talk about these kinds of immigration arguments and I use something from cognitive psychology it's called categorization Theory how do you
2:39:072小时39分钟7秒钟categorize something so when people say you're such a hypocrite Gad you're an immigrant why are you railing against
2:39:152小时39分钟15秒钟immigrants your buddy Elon Musk is an immigrant and so then I usually give them the following uh analogy satirical
2:39:222小时39分钟22秒钟analogy but a valid one I say Pho the house cat is a feline so is the male
2:39:292小时39分钟29秒钟lion in the African jungle they're both called feline therefore I'm just as likely to want to snuggle when I go on a
2:39:382小时39分钟38秒钟safari in Namibia next to the feline called the house uh the the male lion no I recognize that even though they're
2:39:462小时39分钟46秒钟both called feline there is a distinction between two I don't categorize them as an Exemplar of the same identity whereas what these people
2:39:552小时39分钟55秒钟play is you're an immigrant why do you rail against immigrants so isn't it
2:40:022小时40分钟2秒钟astonishing that you could have such shoddy thinking that you're unable to recognize what I just said it is but
2:40:112小时40分钟11秒钟it's again it goes back to this tribal thing is that people don't want to admit that having an open border is going to let in terrorists yeah because the
2:40:192小时40分钟19秒钟previous administration which was Democratic had essentially an open border policy and it was based on this concept of empathy and you have
2:40:262小时40分钟26秒钟Sanctuary cities like New York and then as soon as the mayor opposes it well guess what he gets indicted like it's all so transparent it's so crazy it's
2:40:342小时40分钟34秒钟right in front of your face and so I I I don't understand what they're doing and you know there's a lot of arguments they're doing it for cheap labor they're doing it to get votes they're doing it
2:40:422小时40分钟42秒钟whatever they're doing you're making things less safe and to oppose getting rid of cartel members and gang members and criminals pedophiles and serial
2:40:502小时40分钟50秒钟killers to oppose getting rid of them and deporting them is just nuts well the do make any sense the perfect example of
2:40:572小时40分钟57秒钟this kind of parasitic idea and suicidal empathy is that Bishop that just spoke
2:41:042小时41分钟4秒钟that kind of Le Trump right they're your dishwashers they're but nobody's questioning that there might be lovely people that doesn't take away from the
2:41:122小时41分钟12秒钟fact that you shouldn't have an open border policy but she's so committed to empathy that she views any position
2:41:192小时41分钟19秒钟contrary to complete capitulation of your border as non-empathetic right and that is the perspective of the extreme
2:41:262小时41分钟26秒钟leftists yeah and that's a it's a it's a cult-like perspective it doesn't hold up to scrutiny it doesn't make sense what it's not empathetic certainly not
2:41:352小时41分钟35秒钟empathetic to the people that are victim to those people right exactly well it's not it's not empathetic to the I think
2:41:422小时41分钟42秒钟900 biological women who lost medals did you see that study yeah right so but what you're every like it's just a small
2:41:502小时41分钟50秒钟amount a small number well is 900 small what would be a big number here's the big thing there was not 900 10 years ago right okay so what happened in 10 years
2:41:582小时41分钟58秒钟and what happens 10 years from now are are we willing to have all female sports dominated by men right who believe that
2:42:062小时42分钟6秒钟they're women that's crazy right that doesn't make any sense right well in Canada there was a 50-year-old man who identified with a as a teenage girl so
2:42:142小时42分钟14秒钟he's competing in swimming events I believe he was a professor as well I sazed this in the parasitic mind where I
2:42:212小时42分钟21秒钟said that through trans gravity I identify as much smaller weight than I
2:42:282小时42分钟28秒钟really am and through trans agism I am an eight-year-old boy so I'm competing in the under eight Judo competition
2:42:352小时42分钟35秒钟isn't it nuts and then that actually turned out to be true where people that's ridiculous I remember watched Dennis Prager on Bill Mar show a long
2:42:422小时42分钟42秒钟time ago and he was talking about how men can menstrate next thing you're going to be saying men can menstrate and the whole place goes nuts and screams you're like what are you saying cuz this
2:42:512小时42分钟51秒钟was quite a while ago and now it's common placeon Place common place to say Ben commen in fact tampon Tim Tim wals
2:42:582小时42分钟58秒钟the guy was he was putting tampons in the men's room so at Concordia which is my home University right I'm now at Northwood but my home
2:43:072小时43分钟7秒钟University had last May a one-day Symposium on menstrual Equity because
2:43:152小时43分钟15秒钟menstruation is a human right what the [ __ ] does that mean like what does that mean menstrual Equity how can you get men to menr I'll I'll I'll I'll send you
2:43:232小时43分钟23秒钟privately like literally human right it's a human right like until that Symposium women had been stopped from
2:43:312小时43分钟31秒钟menstruating in Canada does that mean what does it mean it's so crazy well unfortunately for us in Canada unlike
2:43:392小时43分钟39秒钟you guys have the Savior Trump yes Trudeau is resigned officially or you know won't be running won't be running the country for much longer but we're
2:43:482小时43分钟48秒钟much further down the the woke Abyss than you guys are so it's cautionary tale yeah exactly so I think yes Pier
2:43:572小时43分钟57秒钟Pierre PV will be an obvious massive improvement over is that how you say it I mean if you say it with the proper French actually yeah it's p how other
2:44:052小时44分钟5秒钟people say it differently what's the wrong way to say it every other way that an American or English Canadian would say it so I I even heard people say like
2:44:132小时44分钟13秒钟poette no no it's PV PV yeah Pier PV he's a very logical guy it was one of
2:44:212小时44分钟21秒钟the things that was interesting reporter questioned him on whether or not he aligns with Donald Trump in that there are two genders and he said well if there's other genders I'd like you to
2:44:292小时44分钟29秒钟tell me what they are that's I'm open to tell me what they are that one was great but of course the classic one the Apple
2:44:362小时44分钟36秒钟yeah when he was eating an apple great that was like straight out of a spaghetti western well it seems like that's what your country needs and I I hope it happens I I hope he wins yeah I
2:44:462小时44分钟46秒钟hope there's some sort of a a recognition that if if America changes course and course corrects and America starts to thrive and do better which I
2:44:542小时44分钟54秒钟think it will yeah and gets the violent crime down and a lot of the issues down and prices down and if all that stuff happens I hope Canada comes to its
2:45:022小时45分钟2秒钟census and and wakes up from this woke trance I mean I think it will but it'll be a longer autocorrection yeah unless
2:45:102小时45分钟10秒钟you become the 51st state come on join up by the way do you know that I posted a a post on on Twitter on X where I
2:45:192小时45分钟19秒钟tagged Trump I said dear Donald Trump look can you invade Canada it won't take more it won't take more than four to six
2:45:282小时45分钟28秒钟committed Marines or something like that like like really to show how wimpy we are and if you saw the tagging of
2:45:362小时45分钟36秒钟Concordia that I got on X because people were saying you have a Canadian Professor who is being treasonous and
2:45:462小时45分钟46秒钟get How could a human being be so lacking the same thing as the Hitler thing with with Elon it's like you're
2:45:532小时45分钟53秒钟pretend so they don't really believe it no it's an attack Vector they're just looking at it's like I can go after him now and this is what this is one of the
2:46:012小时46分钟1秒钟major problems with social media is that it's like it's really good for that yeah it's really good for people to be shitty and to you know what we talked about
2:46:082小时46分钟8秒钟it's like it's the least connected form of discourse between human beings it's so it's so much shittier than verbal
2:46:162小时46分钟16秒钟communication and what is eventually going to be telepathic communication is going to fored that to the point where you're not going to have to wonder what a person thinks you're going to know
2:46:242小时46分钟24秒钟what they think you you almost I don't think I I've seen you in many years ever engage anyone on X right no I mean
2:46:322小时46分钟32秒钟occasionally I I wanted to get Peter hotz to debate with Bobby Kennedy because and he was calling me a Neo fascist it's a Neo fascist leanings like
2:46:412小时46分钟41秒钟and I was like this is so ridiculous like I'll I'll give a a bunch of money to the charity of you're choosing oh yes I remember that I said I'll donate $100,000
2:46:492小时46分钟49秒钟you pick a charity debate him here explain what's going on if you're so smart and you're so correct come debate
2:46:562小时46分钟56秒钟him and nobody you know he didn't want to do it it's just the whole thing is just like I don't like to do that because I don't like it's going to sound
2:47:042小时47分钟4秒钟very hippie I don't like negativity I don't want to argue with anybody I I don't even want to argue with people that I disagree with if I disagree with
2:47:122小时47分钟12秒钟someone I'd like to have a discussion with them I'd like to have a calm civil discussion with the I don't think things should be I think should avoid personal
2:47:202小时47分钟20秒钟attacks and all that stuff whenever possible I think it's bad for you is this something that you adhere to even
2:47:282小时47分钟28秒钟in your personal relationships okay yeah I don't argue people I'm not interested I don't I don't like bad vibes I can disagree with someone and I that's I'll
2:47:362小时47分钟36秒钟have people on the podcast I disagree with them I'm never mean to them I never call them names and I don't I don't think it's good for you I don't think it's good even if I'm look I'm good at
2:47:452小时47分钟45秒钟it okay I'm a professional [ __ ] talker I could talk a lot of [ __ ] right if I want to make fun of someone I can make fun of someone pretty easily I don't want to I
2:47:522小时47分钟52秒钟don't want to not interested I mean I make fun in jokes I do stand up I make fun on podcasts we [ __ ] around and joke
2:47:592小时47分钟59秒钟around but in real life or in in actual communication with another person I don't want it I don't think it's
2:48:062小时48分钟6秒钟necessary for you to have a full rich life I think it's uh junk food I think it's it's essentially like you don't
2:48:142小时48分钟14秒钟need to eat chips don't eat chips chips are killing you and Mountain Dew's killing you don't eat Mountain Dew right I think negativity is bad for everyone I
2:48:212小时48分钟21秒钟think it's bad for the person who pushes it out it's bad for the person that receives it it's the reason why people don't like being canceled all these people are dumping on you it's all this
2:48:282小时48分钟28秒钟negativity and like oh and you feel terrible and they know you feel terrible so they keep piling on they I think it's bad for them I think it's bad for your
2:48:362小时48分钟36秒钟soul I think it's bad for your self-respect for how you view yourself as an evolved human being like that you
2:48:432小时48分钟43秒钟want to do that to a person and go after them like that I mean the only exceptions are if someone's a criminal someone's doing something like you know
2:48:522小时48分钟52秒钟if you're the head of a pharmaceutical drug company that's pushing stuff on people that's killing people and you know it is and you're hiding it if you're a person who's involved in the
2:49:012小时49分钟1秒钟trafficking of you know underage sex workers or whatever what whatever it is
2:49:082小时49分钟8秒钟it's evil if you want to go after pure evil in the world okay I get it but most of what people do when they're really
2:49:152小时49分钟15秒钟shitty to each other is like political disagreements or IDE logical disagreements and it just it shows your weakness as a person well so I think it
2:49:232小时49分钟23秒钟was Henry Kissinger who said this he to your point he said never are the battles so Fierce as when the stakes are so low
2:49:322小时49分钟32秒钟so I think it's us to your point right so people get all animated and I think it's also a lot of people that don't understand real conflict right the the
2:49:422小时49分钟42秒钟high I think people have a certain amount of um anticipation just being a human being again with old operating
2:49:492小时49分钟49秒钟system that we have yeah there's a certain amount of anticipation of an enemy and of a threat and of a thing that you have to defeat yeah I think
2:49:572小时49分钟57秒钟it's just a naturally built it's naturally built into us to the point where people become illogical especially when they get super Tribble they're on a
2:50:052小时50分钟5秒钟team we're on a team so we have to defeat the people on the other team so you say horrible things about people on the other team on Twitter and then people retweet it and post it you and
2:50:142小时50分钟14秒钟you feed off of it I think it's a stupid way to communicate I think it's a stupid way for human beings to think and behave and I think it goes back to what I said
2:50:212小时50分钟21秒钟before about ideas that you're not your ideas you you cannot be your ideas if you want to talk about ideas just talk about what the ideas and what you think
2:50:302小时50分钟30秒钟things should be and what this is what you think is going on and have and have respectful conversations with people that disagree and that's that's the best
2:50:392小时50分钟39秒钟way to communicate that's just too hard to find so I had one negative interaction that sat very badly with me
2:50:482小时50分钟48秒钟after the fact and I think we've now cleared it so to to your point about not going after someone I mean usually you know I'm a
2:50:562小时50分钟56秒钟very affable guy and warm and the whole thing but sometimes if somebody pisses me off I just kind of call him a [ __ ] [ __ ] call him a [ __ ] [ __ ] but
2:51:042小时51分钟4秒钟usually not someone that I know it's just it's but even if it's a person that you don't know there's a person on the other end of that that's true but usually if I call you a retards because
2:51:122小时51分钟12秒钟you've been kind of doing stuff endlessly after me right so you don't punch a guy if he just slap you one time but if he slaps you 18 times you're
2:51:202小时51分钟20秒钟probably going to no you should punch him if he slaps you once there you go cuz slaps usually lead to something else there you go can't let a gota get away with us slot so I you know I we're in
2:51:292小时51分钟29秒钟Austin so there was a point where Lex fredman was doing all the Love Will Conquer everything stuff and it was
2:51:372小时51分钟37秒钟pissing me off because it was in the context of let's say the Middle East where I come from where I know that love doesn't conquer all and so that stick
2:51:452小时51分钟45秒钟was getting me angry and so I kind of went after him not like in a mean way calling him names but I said you know it's kind of infantile to think that
2:51:542小时51分钟54秒钟love conquers everywhere or something and then he he got upset and then had blocked me and that never sat well with
2:52:012小时52分钟1秒钟me not because he had blocked me but because I don't like to have can you know uh maintaining a bad Vibe with
2:52:102小时52分钟10秒钟someone right right you kind of maintain it if you're still blocked if I'm still blocked and are you still blocked now I don't know if I'm still blocked I bet
2:52:182小时52分钟18秒钟you're stilled blocked I don't maybe I don't think he unblocked people I thought you can't block people now well you can block people still you just can still still so you can to his credit and
2:52:272小时52分钟27秒钟I think mine we kind of kissed and made up and he said oh you know if you ever come to Austin uh you know I I'm always
2:52:362小时52分钟36秒钟happy to talk to you and I'd love to and I'm a fan of your work and we haven't been able to connect connect thank you I'll con you yeah but that makes so to
2:52:452小时52分钟45秒钟your point that made me feel better because was like this negativity even though I never met him and I don't know him I don't like that there's a guy that
2:52:532小时52分钟53秒钟exists that is in any way upset at something that I said about him right he's not a Nazi he's not a islamist
2:53:022小时53分钟2秒钟terrorist I I don't want that and so I take your point and and I'm glad we patched uh we cleared up haven't cleared
2:53:102小时53分钟10秒钟it up yet with the our mutual oh yeah that guy the the Malibu
2:53:162小时53分钟16秒钟meditator well you know he's on his own Journey but even I've I've really toyed with just sending him an email and it doesn't
2:53:252小时53分钟25秒钟matter like it's not like he's in my close personal circle of friends but I don't like having so I want to say hey hey buddy you know there's no hard
2:53:322小时53分钟32秒钟feelings between you think I should do it yeah why not yeah exactly yeah it's not going to hurt I had a conversation with him on the phone uh I think you
2:53:402小时53分钟40秒钟know life is short life is short goes by very quickly and like I said I think that stuff engaging in that stuff is
2:53:482小时53分钟48秒钟just like like eating junk food I I don't think you should do it yeah don't think it's smart but less less enjoyable than junk food of all the wonderful
2:53:562小时53分钟56秒钟conversations we've had one of the pieces of advice that always rings in my head from Joe Rogan is you read your
2:54:052小时54分钟5秒钟effing comments are you insane or something like that you had said to me because one time I was we were chatting and you said and I was upset yeah and so
2:54:132小时54分钟13秒钟every time I almost feel like I'm falling into that trap where I'm starting to scroll I go Joe Rogan and then I so there's also a thing too where
2:54:212小时54分钟21秒钟if someone writes something for some reason it seems more real than if they just say it to their friend yes you know people talk [ __ ] all the time they say
2:54:282小时54分钟28秒钟things and then they say I shouldn't have said that you know but when it's written down it's out there forever on the internet right which is really weird
2:54:362小时54分钟36秒钟yeah you know which is it's another aspect of it that's very strange earlier you were talking about uh uh standup
2:54:442小时54分钟44秒钟Comics something I can't remember exactly what you're saying but I and I thought I have to tell him this guy the funniest bit I've ever seen of course
2:54:542小时54分钟54秒钟you will know it the bit with Bobby Lee and Brian Callen and another guy I don't know what his name is where he's telling
2:55:022小时55分钟2秒钟them that he was molested by a Downs guy yes Brendan sha yeah so I've probably watched that 10 times and there hasn't
2:55:112小时55分钟11秒钟been a tedium in my laughter like usually if you see a joke the fourth time is less funny so every time I go
2:55:192小时55分钟19秒钟back to it and I watch it I laugh as much as the previous time I watch it's very ridiculous yeah but that's the beauty of podcast it's like you could
2:55:282小时55分钟28秒钟never have something that ridiculous on like Saturday Night Live or on the Jimmy Kimmel show or any late night talk show he it's like the only place that's No
2:55:362小时55分钟36秒钟Holds Barred like that is podcast oh he that guy's really funny Bob's very funny he's very funny I I kind of got I first
2:55:442小时55分钟44秒钟learned of him I saw him uh on Curb Your Enthusiasm where he was do you know do you know that he was on that I didn't
2:55:512小时55分钟51秒钟know he was on that yeah he he's like a Korean bookie to Larry David or something and whatever some funny and
2:55:582小时55分钟58秒钟he's speaking with a Korean accent so on and I thought oh who's this guy and then I discovered him and so I watched some of his standup I mean some of it is a
2:56:052小时56分钟5秒钟bit harsh but but he is he is funny he's very he's a good dude too I saw him in uh with Bill Mah
2:56:132小时56分钟13秒钟recently and I'm sorry no disrespect for Bill Mah but I think Bobby Lee is a lot funnier than Bill Mah but what do I know I'm not a professional comedian they're
2:56:212小时56分钟21秒钟purely he's purely funny whereas Bill Mah is very political and opinionated and right you know he he has that sort
2:56:302小时56分钟30秒钟of antagonistic personal style of politics and yeah it's never just about idea it's complete mockery of everything
2:56:382小时56分钟38秒钟it's like a comedic bent on everything right which everybody likes different things you know some people like that you you've had them on the show yeah yeah I've had them on yeah a couple
2:56:462小时56分钟46秒钟times I like them just just like I don't talk to people like that though and this is like as I've gotten older and wiser and had more experiences in life and
2:56:552小时56分钟55秒钟thought about things more and more and more I've decided to engage in as little of that [ __ ] as possible so it's interesting because you're interested in
2:57:032小时57分钟3秒钟a sport that's all about combat and fighting and yet you live by the motto of the exact opposite of that which I
2:57:122小时57分钟12秒钟wonder if many fighters might have that because they a lot of Fighters have that because they realize that their physicality is actually quite ominous I want to live exactly the opposite of
2:57:212小时57分钟21秒钟that in my personal engagements with people they also realize like all that is extra energy it's all just energy that you're giving out to conversations
2:57:282小时57分钟28秒钟online arguing with people online just bad energy right it's not it's not a good use of energy I should say it's it's a improper use of energy it's a
2:57:362小时57分钟36秒钟waste this is what I described people and I'm sorry if I've heard if you've heard this before I say think of your
2:57:422小时57分钟42秒钟mind as your mind has units of thought you have aund units that you can use and
2:57:502小时57分钟50秒钟you're using 30 of them on social media arguing about St now you've deprived yourself of your music or your poetry or
2:57:582小时57分钟58秒钟your art whatever you do that you really like to do you've deprived yourself of your access to your your units of thought that can focus on this positive
2:58:062小时58分钟6秒钟thing because you're spending time arguing about whatever the [ __ ] it is whatever it is online yeah whatever it
2:58:132小时58分钟13秒钟is whatever you just why why so let's say forgive me for asking intrusive question are you able to stick true to
2:58:222小时58分钟22秒钟that motto as a fight is brewing with your wife yeah I don't argue with like that I don't ever like I don't get mean
2:58:312小时58分钟31秒钟ever never I don't I don't we don't even yell we'll talk about stuff we we we'll disagree on stuff but it never gets
2:58:382小时58分钟38秒钟shitty I don't think you should talk to people like that that are your friends I don't think you should talk to your loved ones like that yeah I mean sometimes you have to tell your friend
2:58:462小时58分钟46秒钟hey dude you're being a [ __ ] idiot like you got to stop doing that you're going to ruin your life well you're doing it for their benefit and sometimes you have to speak in harsh language just
2:58:552小时58分钟55秒钟to let them know how you actually feel about what's happening but for the most part I don't think it's I don't think it's good in any way shape or form and
2:59:022小时59分钟2秒钟if you're in one of those relationships where you yell at each other and throw things at each other and call each other the worst things possible and then make up like well December 5th I just
2:59:112小时59分钟11秒钟celebrated 25 years congratulations sir thank you sir how long have you how how long 15 15 yeah look it's it's beautiful
2:59:182小时59分钟18秒钟to be happy it's beautiful to be in a good relationship but like all things like online communication like P
2:59:262小时59分钟26秒钟interpersonal communication it takes work yeah and you have to have you know a thought like this is what I don't want out of my life I don't want conflict I
2:59:352小时59分钟35秒钟don't want [ __ ] and I don't want to be the cause of conflict so you have to have your own [ __ ] together too some people they don't want conflict but they create it all the time by stupid
2:59:442小时59分钟44秒钟decisions and bad behavior and you got to learn that too but so how do you are you able to completely do this when
2:59:522小时59分钟52秒钟people are coming after I don't people come after me all the time I mean troll I mean like people I know come after me all the time I ignore it you right and I
3:00:013小时1秒钟don't engage okay I'm good luck you can have your opinions about me good luck it's okay have fun enjoy your life I I I
3:00:103小时10秒钟self assess all the time I self audit my own behavior I'm My Own Worst critic right so things that other people that are saying about me with they especially
3:00:183小时18秒钟if they're inaccurate it doesn't work it doesn't affect me I don't care right I'm happy you are a model to live by Sir
3:00:273小时27秒钟well I try but it's hard work it's not like this is an it's an easy thing to like to try to stay at peace all the
3:00:333小时33秒钟time do you ever do you ever foresee deciding I've spoken to all the
3:00:403小时40秒钟interesting people I could you do yeah there could be a point in time I don't want to do this anymore but I think it' be more related to not want to be public
3:00:473小时47秒钟at anymore not not interested in like having your thoughts out there in the world okay it might be come a point in time where I want to enter a different
3:00:563小时56秒钟phase of my life where I don't think about expressing myself publicly anymore okay that could be I could see that
3:01:033小时1分钟3秒钟where I'm just thinking about just living my life doing the things that I'm interested in because I'm interested in a lot of things and I don't want to limit the amount of things that I'm
3:01:113小时1分钟11秒钟exposed to that I'm interested in what are some of the things that uh you're taking you know the ramics course that you've
3:01:193小时1分钟19秒钟always you know whatever you know what what are some of the things that are oh between like I'm full of stuff between
3:01:273小时1分钟27秒钟martial arts and comedy and archery and playing pool and all the different things that I enjoy doing I when people
3:01:353小时1分钟35秒钟tell me they're bored I just don't understand I don't understand how you can be bored the world is so interesting there's so many different things to
3:01:433小时1分钟43秒钟learn but by the way what you just said is exactly why your podcast has been so successful UC F because you
3:01:503小时1分钟50秒钟exude in French you say right a joy for living and that Curiosity that you know
3:01:593小时1分钟59秒钟insatiable love of life that makes you open to all these other people who sit in deceit that you say give it to me and
3:02:073小时2分钟7秒钟if you didn't have that quality you could have had all the other qualities if you didn't have that quality I don't think your show would have been successful you're probably
3:02:133小时2分钟13秒钟right so you're no but it's true yeah no I'm sure because I mean a lot of people will tell you know they'll ask me oh you know you know Joe what you know what's
3:02:223小时2分钟22秒钟his secret I say there's no secret he's a cool guy who wants to have cool conversations I mean it really is I think the secret is numbers too it's
3:02:303小时2分钟30秒钟putting in the numbers like I I do a lot more podcasts than most people so and five days a week right four mostly four
3:02:383小时2分钟38秒钟sometimes three sometimes five okay more threes than FES but a bunch of fives um but the most important thing is just for
3:02:453小时2分钟45秒钟15 16 years it's like I just I've done it forever and so in doing it for that long over the course of that immense
3:02:533小时2分钟53秒钟amount of time talking to people you just get better at talking to people it's like everything else you get better at it the more you do it and then you
3:03:013小时3分钟1秒钟understand what sucks about what you're doing what percentage I'm not asking you to give names or anything what percentage of guests that
3:03:103小时3分钟10秒钟come on your show the first time you've come to the realization that they're not good enough enough conversationalist to
3:03:193小时3分钟19秒钟ever invite again is it it happens yeah it happens I I don't want to give a number but I mean it definitely happens it's like you don't know until you talk
3:03:273小时3分钟27秒钟to someone and some people you can tell some people are bullshitting you and some people are pushing an agenda and some people just aren't that good at talking and they're not compelling and
3:03:353小时3分钟35秒钟you can't drag anything out of them and you know well this would be a one-time conversation right yeah it happens but thankfully for you know you and I what
3:03:423小时3分钟42秒钟is this this our number 11 11 wow I was going to say 10 wow and I'll just say this uh I think my first time was 2014
3:03:503小时3分钟50秒钟wow we're 2025 so that means we are on one one show a year well we just bang down another good for many more years
3:03:583小时3分钟58秒钟thank you sir thank you sir it's always a pleasure such always a pleasure appreciate you very much thank all right bye everybody